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ASPoker8 10-31-2007 02:06 AM

200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: $199.55
ASPoker8 (CO): $200
BTN: $306.25
SB: $218.60
BB: $204.75
UTG: $195
UTG+1: $143.90
UTG+2: $20.85
MP1: $334.30

Pre-Flop: Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to ASPoker8 (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $6, MP2 folds, ASPoker8 calls $6, 2 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (4 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="red">ASPoker8 bets $18</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $54</font>, 2 folds, ASPoker8 ---

GrandMelon 10-31-2007 02:13 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
hello set

Johnes Benjamin 10-31-2007 02:21 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
this is a pretty dry board. the only rational hand you could be ahead of is T9.
this is a fold

ASPoker8 10-31-2007 04:32 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
So just fold because his range is {22,88}?

diebitter 10-31-2007 04:35 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
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hello set

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Yep fold without reads. Or stats. Or any kind of info.

CalledDownLight 10-31-2007 04:37 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
was this yesterday?

ASPoker8 10-31-2007 04:38 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
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was this yesterday?

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i forget i was just mindlessly looking through hands in my db earlier and noticed this one and thought lol full ring [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

CalledDownLight 10-31-2007 04:40 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
I'm pretty sure I remember this hand assuming it was played last night as opposed to tonight.

ASPoker8 10-31-2007 04:43 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
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I'm pretty sure I remember this hand assuming it was played last night as opposed to tonight.

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it wasnt tonight

effang 10-31-2007 10:38 AM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
i don't think it really matters what you have here. it's 4 ways, and he's c/r huge on the flop. even if he thought you were making a play in position, are you ready to call a big turn bet?

i just drop it and make a note of it.

speedyg 10-31-2007 01:32 PM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
If OP bet the flop in earlier position then I'd buy the fold line. However given BB is a thinking player and the flop bet came from the last to act, this does not look like an clear fold to me. I'm taking one off here.

Hklm8383 10-31-2007 01:35 PM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
muck it fast

CalledDownLight 10-31-2007 03:41 PM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
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hello set

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Yep fold without reads. Or stats. Or any kind of info.

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muck it fast

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this is a pretty dry board. the only rational hand you could be ahead of is T9.
this is a fold

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My image is really this tight? Guess I need to take this line a lot more often.

too eazy 10-31-2007 03:43 PM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
that line is suicidal without your set so dont take it often you noob.

diebitter 10-31-2007 03:45 PM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
Oh please, like you didn't have 88.

CalledDownLight 10-31-2007 04:44 PM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
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that line is suicidal without your set so dont take it often you noob.

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why? If people fold TPTK here then shouldn't I always take this line. I mean, no one ever really shows up with a better hand than that after the pfr checks and a guy checks behind. Obv, ASpoker could have a set, but other than that he has the top of his range and no one else has a better hand like ever.

ASPoker8 10-31-2007 05:29 PM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
This line is pretty baller w/o a set if:

-I am a thinking player w/ the ability to fold
-None of the other dudes have a set
-I don't have a set
-Your image is not out of line
-You are ready to let the variance train begin

[img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

but you had a set, right?

WCGRider 10-31-2007 06:14 PM

Re: 200NL - Sort of Basic Hand v CalledDownLight (BlueDevils09)
 
At least in my experiences with CDL he has a history of getting really agro vs 2p2 players (or hell maybe just me.). Afterwards he always says that he had air or nothing or w/e, it doesnt really matter you cant gauge based off his response. If you think this is a set you have to fold and if you think he is FOS then you have to call. I cant really say what i think because then he can just adjust accordingly.

I guess what im saying is that you pretty much have to decide for yourself what hes up to.


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