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Self Made 10-30-2007 07:37 PM

ESPN/ABC To Apply Poker Model To Football Broadcasts
 
According to an article in the current issue of SMARTMEDIA Magazine, Matt Marantz, ESPN's WSOP producer, is taking over as executive producer of ESPN/ABC's football broadcasts. He intends to adopt the poker broadcasting model for football games. The shows will be shorter, edited broadcasts concentrating on the most interesting plays, with more human interest segments...

linky

SenatorKevin 10-30-2007 07:40 PM

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Football ratings are going down? Please. I have a feeling you'll see the highest rated regular season ratings this weekend for some odd reason.

On a side note, ABC/ESPN are having *horrible* ratings with NASCAR. Now, don't get me started with Nascar bashing but their ratings have declined by 20-25% over the last 3 years. Ouch! (ESPN/ABC just started a multi-year multi billion dollar TV deal)

Edit: To clarify, yes MNF football ratings are down significantly from their hey-day. That is true. However their hey-day was back in the "dark-ages" before cableTV, internet poker, internet porn and xboxes. Even broadcast TV has lower ratings, it's not a problem with the product but more of the nature of the beast of today's culture.

beaver 10-30-2007 07:43 PM

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Is this a bleeping joke?! Not only are football ratings fine (I'm pretty sure the NFL is healthier than it has ever been, and college football is arguably the most popular sport in the USA), but the "human interest segments" in poker broadcasts are bleeping horrible!

Please let this be an Onion article....

EDIT: Article is definitely a joke. Panic gone. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

SenatorKevin 10-30-2007 07:47 PM

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Is this a bleeping joke?! Not only are football ratings fine (I'm pretty sure the NFL is healthier than it has ever been, and college football is arguably the most popular sport in the USA), but the "human interest segments" in poker broadcasts are bleeping horrible!

Please let this be an Onion article....

EDIT: Article is definitely a joke. Panic gone. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Yeah, I'm sure they'll have some GREAT segments about players on the Bengals...

The cited article is apparently not available online, so I'm skeptical. (Not did I read the blog in full, guilty as charged)

NNNNOOOOONAN 10-30-2007 07:48 PM

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kind of reminds me of the free hat episode of southpark i watched last night

Self Made 10-31-2007 01:32 PM

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Article is definitely a joke.

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It's definitely real! I know real ones when I see em:

http://highstakesnews.files.wordpres...ifer_tilly.jpg

ben wb 10-31-2007 01:46 PM

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They already have highlights shows for football, match of the day etc and for the comedy segement what more could you want than Gary Lineker and Mark Lawrenson.

beanie 10-31-2007 01:54 PM

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it is hard to tell what is a level or not these days but I can say that when my wife watches the ESPN broadcasts the human interest stuff is the only thing that keeps her tuned in.

That said, most of it is a complete joke. The same 10 people get so much coverage. Some of the people that get that much coverage barely play poker at all. I think Daniel and Mike deserve every minute they are on but Mike needs to dress better, someone should talk to him. Phil Hellmuth deserves what he gets but not quite as much.

It would be nice if the human interest stuff in poker actually revolved around poker players. All of that said I think this year was been better than the past.

Rushstreet07 10-31-2007 02:17 PM

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If that article is true, i will stop watching football...

PITTM 10-31-2007 02:25 PM

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This should be the deathblow for ESPN, please let it happen.

berya 10-31-2007 03:25 PM

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"If that article is true, i will stop watching football... "

I might too. I hope this does not happen.

Professionalpoker 10-31-2007 03:29 PM

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Non-Live football games will probably bomb. I wonder how the ratings are on replayed games.

SGS 10-31-2007 03:30 PM

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This might be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

SGS

Piece of Cake 10-31-2007 04:45 PM

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This already exists. You can watch condensed baseball games with only the hit and out pitches. And you can watch football games with the time between the player being tackled and the ball being snapped pulled out like on the NFL channel. Obv most people still prefer live.

w_alloy 10-31-2007 05:08 PM

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This already exists. You can watch condensed baseball games with only the hit and out pitches. And you can watch football games with the time between the player being tackled and the ball being snapped pulled out like on the NFL channel. Obv most people still prefer live.

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The condensed games on the NFL channel are usually quite well done. I still watch more live, but if for some reason I miss a game I want to see, I don't mind watching the NFL channel version at all.

Of course, this is completely different than what is described in the OP.

RichardHurtz 10-31-2007 05:36 PM

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"If that article is true, i will stop watching football... "

I might too. I hope this does not happen.

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They should do that with soccer. Would have a 5 min world cup show.

PITTM 10-31-2007 06:39 PM

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"If that article is true, i will stop watching football... "

I might too. I hope this does not happen.

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They should do that with soccer. Would have a 5 min world cup show.

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There are like 15 shows that have highlights. Since this is what you would love to watch, why not watch it?

yogadude 10-31-2007 08:07 PM

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According to an article in the current issue of SMARTMEDIA Magazine, Matt Marantz, ESPN's WSOP producer, is taking over as executive producer of ESPN/ABC's football broadcasts. He intends to adopt the poker broadcasting model for football games. The shows will be shorter, edited broadcasts concentrating on the most interesting plays, with more human interest segments...

linky

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I am not a football fan. I am a MMA fan. I started watching the new leage called IFL. They edit the fights to make it more exciting for the average viewer and it totally ruins the sport. Sports are exciting to watch because of the ups and downs. If it is all 'ups' it will no longer be exciting to watch. They have to do this with poker because it would be unwatchable except to serious poker players and think it is a ridicilous idea to think other sports should be broadcasted this way.

jsaund22 10-31-2007 08:49 PM

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On a side note, ABC/ESPN are having *horrible* ratings with NASCAR. Now, don't get me started with Nascar bashing but their ratings have declined by 20-25% over the last 3 years. Ouch!

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The reason ABC/ESPN's ratings for NASCAR are horrible is that the coverage itself is horrible. They care more about the commercials than the event going on, and they spent an insane amount of money on that stupid "draft tracker" that nobody cares for. The commentators are awful.

ESPN as a whole has been going downhill because they have started caring more about the "human interest" side of things than the "SPORTS" side of things. Maybe they should just become the HIN - Human Interest Netowrk.

Oh, yeah, and non-live football games? Get real.

flight2q 11-01-2007 12:52 AM

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I am a MMA fan. I started watching the new leage called IFL. They edit the fights to make it more exciting for the average viewer and it totally ruins the sport.

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QFT.

Really disapointed in IFL. IFL does post production editing and they still can't put together footage that is as good as UFC does with live productions. IFL is far away from being able to do live broadcasts, and it hurts their ratings that the fights all happened a month or three prior to the airing.

I thought maybe someone clued them in, because they toned down the stupid ring girl competition and got a little better at switching cameras when the ref blocked the view. But I see they are back to doing things that ruin the atmosphere, like cutting to shots of the audience in the middle of rounds. What idiot came up with that idea?

And they waste time on human interest stuff that is repetitive and at best hokey. At worst it's lauding some guy for wrestling a restaurant robber who has a gun pointed at a little girl. Retarded.

Self Made 11-02-2007 07:47 PM

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If that article is true, i will stop watching football...

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The article was a parody. Football is safe.


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