1/2 renton posts a hand
 

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [8s 7s]

ryanmack91: folds
Hoseth10: folds
hurcoman: folds
Jbrickz: folds
Renton555: raises $6 to $8
Levy Process: calls $8
LaBriiee: folds
slammedfire: folds

*** FLOP *** [Td Js Qs]

Renton555: bets $14
Levy Process: calls $14

*** TURN *** [Td Js Qs] [Ah]

Renton555: checks
Levy Process: bets $40
Renton555: raises $135 to $175 and is all-in


screw the converter nazi's, im in the middle of playing

villain is very tight over a very small sample

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

He bet you off your hand. Asta la bye bye!

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

I assume villain has you covered, since you didn't post stack sizes?

I don't like it. You get shown KJ or something too often IMO.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

I like it. FE + FD outs = +EV.

He doesn't have to fold that much at all to make it profitable, right? One of you nerds do the maths for us [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

Because villain is very tight you put them on a range heavily weighted toward sets, 2 pair, better flopped straights because their hand was strong enough to bet the turn, so your straight is probably good?

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

i don't have a straight

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

Looks believable.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

The reason I think this is bad is because most of the time, villain will check behind on the turn with two pairs, sets, or A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], not wanting to get blown off the hand.

So, when villain bets like this, I'd say his range is heavily weighted towards K-x.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

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I like it. FE + FD outs = +EV.

He doesn't have to fold that much at all to make it profitable, right? One of you nerds do the maths for us [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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No FE against the nut straight, most of his range. He probably thinks you have it too and you're chopping.

And you have to discount your flush outs as K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or a set are real possibilities too.

I fold here. But I suck, so whatevs.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

Depending on what 'very tight' means, it looks good. How's your image? Any recent relevant history w/ this guy?

Edit: def not something *I* could pull off with +EV.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

i just c/f here. i feel like most of his range is the straight. a lot of his other calling range is sets. you have small fold equity and only sometimes have more than the fd.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

i think if he calls this shove with anything worse than a K then he's absolutely terrible and making a -ev call vs my range for sure.

I'm hopefully expecting him to fold sets.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

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i think if he calls this shove with anything worse than a K then he's absolutely terrible and making a -ev call vs my range for sure.

I'm hopefully expecting him to fold sets.

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Heh I don't think he is bet-folding a set.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

What do you think about leading turn and shoving river??

Not that you wouldn't take the line you did with a K, but I think to most people it seems like you wouldn't want to put so much pressure on with the nuts, especially when there are so many 2pair/sets that will give you significant action.
If he raises your turn bet I think its pretty obvious he has the straight.

Also, if he is the type to call with less than str8 then I think it will be easier to get away from on a blank river, when he can't tell himself he has outs to fill up.



I have stopped playing for a couple hours b/c I am unbelievably tilted, so you know, there's that. I'd like to know your thoughts though

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

getting people at 1/2 NL FR to fold sets or top 2 can't possibly be +EV, especially when they have a street to boat up.

I think this would work very well if there was more money involved.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

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villain is very tight over a very small sample

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... and he's a 2+2er [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'll wait a bit longer before commenting

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

Do you get to fist pump when he folds?.... Hands like these are why 6 max is a superior game =). not but seriously he has to be crazy not to fold considering how not drawy your flop call is. but again he may know this and be crazy not to fold. the duality of poker is what tilts the [censored] outa me so i say do what you feel renton.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

what happened to the comment?

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

I cant see how he doesnt have a K here with tht turn bet. If you hit your flush NH but i wouldnt take a play like this.

I would think a c/c if anything would be better and im sure he would call a half pot sized bet on the river with his str8 when ur flush hits.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

People have such a hard time folding hands that once felt big. I think you'd have a harder time than you'd hope getting JJ or TT to fold as often as you'd like for a pot sized bet with 10 outs coming. Too much, "awww screw it" out there.

That said, I still like it.

Re: 1/2 renton posts a hand
 

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i don't have a straight

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That's right, so what the hell are you doing? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]