Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

PROBABLY not the right place to ask but omg im so on tilt right now.....


Seat 1: Blueboy66 (£148.33 in chips)
Seat 2: Kash69 (£90.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Matsash (£202.40 in chips)
Seat 4: 2hi4me2cu (£196.33 in chips)
Seat 5: Gserter (£280.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Janer0907 (£62 in chips)
Janer0907: posts small blind £1
Kash69: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to 2hi4me2cu [Qh Ah]
Matsash: folds
2hi4me2cu: raises to £8
Gserter: calls £8
Janer0907: folds
Kash69: folds
----- FLOP ----- [Qc 8h Td]
2hi4me2cu: bets £21
Gserter: calls £21
----- TURN ----- [Qc 8h Td][Th]
2hi4me2cu: bets £67
Gserter: calls £67
----- RIVER ----- [Qc 8h Td Th][Jd]
2hi4me2cu: bets £100
Gserter: calls £100
----- SHOW DOWN -----
2hi4me2cu: shows [Qh Ah] (Two Pairs, Queens and Tens, Ace high)
Gserter: shows [3h 9h] (A Straight, Queen high)
Gserter collected £392 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £395 Main pot £392 Rake £3
Board [Qc 8h Td Th Jd]
Seat 2: Kash69 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Matsash folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 2hi4me2cu showed [Qh Ah] and lost with Two Pairs, Queens and Tens, Ace high
Seat 5: Gserter (button) showed [3h 9h] and won (£392) with A Straight, Queen high
Seat 6: Janer0907 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

zomg u lost with top pair. unheard of.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

do you play like that with 39?

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

I just saved a bunch of £ on my car insurance!


See how that doesn't even work. WTF man....you guys need to get on board and start using regular money to buy/sell stuff.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

where can you play with pounds?

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

villain had a gut shot.


then picked up a flush draw. 13 outs wins once every 3.5 times. or once every 2 times if its full tilt or foxwoods.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

its william hill

EDIT - pot was 50 ish he called 67 with 39...

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

Why can't you just be happy that you found a site as great as that ?

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

i suggest you all come play here, theres fish at EVERY limit....

Just be prepared for william hill to royally shaft you and reward the fish at every river

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

Villian should have raised river.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

he had a fd on the turn so standard

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i suggest you all come play here, theres fish at EVERY limit....

Just be prepared for william hill to royally shaft you and reward the fish at every river

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Been there done that got the teeshirt.
Just what is wrong with William Hill poker.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

I was just checking WH because I wanted to play in euros.
The software I can live with and there`s rakeback but it looks like the euro tables are empty.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

River bet is horrible IMO. ONLY hand you get called on on the riv that you beat is KQ...he could have slowplayed T on turn, could have something like 89, COULD even have AK if passive.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

tag him. he is obviously a poor player. play against him as much as you can and be happy in the knowledge that in the long run you will make more money than him.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

If it's any consolation, villian played his hand worse than you did.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

i agree the river bet was awful, it was a spite bet more than anything

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

lol river - the turn is borderline

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i suggest you all come play here, theres fish at EVERY limit....

Just be prepared for william hill to royally shaft you and reward the fish at every river

[/ QUOTE ]

Been there done that got the teeshirt.
Just what is wrong with William Hill poker.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

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I must say, yeah ive read your albeit 'long post' and comepletely agree (cant proove it of course)

Typically you will get really bad beats every session, even playing very tight.. examples of just a one hour session...

10 ring, im BB and 2 limpers. One is mp and the other sb. (i hold 73)

flop comes 273. MP bets sb calls. I make BIG raise.

Turn 7

sb check. Me all in (£190, pot 64) MP calls, hes got kk and the river is a K.

now, about 5 mins later i flop the nut straight 34567 fk it, i raise get Re- raised so push. get called turn and river runner 8 8

me straight villain 77

then about 20 mins after that flop trips on a rainbow board, raise, get re-raised push all in, villain had open str8 and hits on the turn.

about an hour after that, on 2 occasions i flopped a lower set to a hight set..

Just another day at the WH office.

(i have finally decided to never play there again, nor to ever recommend this site and even to the point that if i know anyone playing there. Will discourage them from doing so.)

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

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lol river - the turn is borderline

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Its what that site does to you grrrrrr...

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

If the site is full of fish, aren't you going to see a lot more river cards? And if you see a lot more river cards aren't you going to take a lot more beats? But aren't you going to make more money in the long run even with more beats?

I'm far from being a great player, but every time I see a bone head play, I see an opportunity to make money.

Unless of course I make a bone head play. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If the site is full of fish, aren't you going to see a lot more river cards? And if you see a lot more river cards aren't you going to take a lot more beats? But aren't you going to make more money in the long run even with more beats?

I'm far from being a great player, but every time I see a bone head play, I see an opportunity to make money.

Unless of course I make a bone head play. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Its the AMOUNT of times that river card is the 1 - 2 outer that they need..

Its freakishly unusual...

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

lol @ "spite bet"
that's an expensive emotion

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

agreed, and although i dont tilt very often... super donkey made me tilt.

And yeah agree fish make you money long term. I even expect to get bad beats, thats what makes poker fun / unpredictable.

BUT and a big but, i dont expect it at every table i sit, every day.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

Here's <a href="http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp12312001.shtml">Something Positive</a>.

For a lesbian, you seem to suck a whole mess o' dick.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

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Here's <a href="http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp12312001.shtml">Something Positive</a>.

For a lesbian, you seem to suck a whole mess o' dick.

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Weirdo

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

I can make you HIV positive if you like.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i suggest you all come play here, theres fish at EVERY limit....

Just be prepared for william hill to royally shaft you and reward the fish at every river

[/ QUOTE ]

Been there done that got the teeshirt.
Just what is wrong with William Hill poker.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

[/ QUOTE ]


I must say, yeah ive read your albeit 'long post' and comepletely agree (cant proove it of course)

Typically you will get really bad beats every session, even playing very tight.. examples of just a one hour session...

10 ring, im BB and 2 limpers. One is mp and the other sb. (i hold 73)

flop comes 273. MP bets sb calls. I make BIG raise.

Turn 7

sb check. Me all in (£190, pot 64) MP calls, hes got kk and the river is a K.

now, about 5 mins later i flop the nut straight 34567 fk it, i raise get Re- raised so push. get called turn and river runner 8 8

me straight villain 77

then about 20 mins after that flop trips on a rainbow board, raise, get re-raised push all in, villain had open str8 and hits on the turn.

about an hour after that, on 2 occasions i flopped a lower set to a hight set..

Just another day at the WH office.

(i have finally decided to never play there again, nor to ever recommend this site and even to the point that if i know anyone playing there. Will discourage them from doing so.)

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from there site ref rng



"The randomness of our random number generator is tested by comparing a very long sequence of generated numbers to various statistical distributions. If any of these tests are found to be outside theoretical limits, the random number generator is not used.

The current version of the random number generator was tested (and is continually tested) using a sequence of 300,000,000 (three hundred million) numbers to verify its randomness.

If our random number generator is biased in any way, players may recognise it and use it to their advantage. Almost any casino game can be turned against the house if the numbers are biased.

With such excellent communication tools as the Internet, expert players could discover the bias and spread the word which would bankrupt the casino. Therefore, it is in our best interest to make our random number generator as unbiased as possible".


Thats all very well but the question is not if it is fixed but how. The card bad beats you mentioned is just the tip of the ice berg, I played there for a long time over many many thousands of hands and you have to watch your self on WH, in the spots were you should win you dont.


Some body asked a good questions with reference to this and basicly said WH only make money on rake why would they fix it.. The only answer to that is that they must make more money but having it pass from person to person in some controled manner?

If you play like a pro on WH you will lose. When you flop a set or trips or what ever you get there, be very very carefull its bingo NOT poker and that upsets me they did not need to butcher poker to make more money, maybe they are making a certain percent more by poking the system in a very clever way but in the end some one at WH is going to talk or it will get out.


Your a person who has had the courage to state your opinon and I commend that, Im out of pocket by a lot of money, Im young and I work there is A lot more money out there for me to earn so honesty if you burt 10k in front of my face i would not even blink but morally and for the effort and focus I put into the game there, I wanted and EXPECTED a level playing feild which excluding every one else here for the min, we both know hand on heart is not evident there.

As I said before, is it fixed for sure 100%, I honestly dont know but if I had to state one way or the other and the wrong answer being damnation in burning hell for ever the likey punshment for getting it wrong.. seriously..

I would say its fixed there, is not random, it might be some times but it gets played with in some way, I can appericate abstract
data input and there is definatly an unusally pattern in there RNG.

It would be nice if more people actually came forward, if it comes to book and the fix is published in the medi or on here I will pursue all monies deposited with them.


Highly illegal in my opinon sorry but im actaully way too inteligent for that BS.

Go to a site with a certified rng which can be faxed or email to you for refernce.

I dont care what any one else says life is too short ill tell it as it is.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

get a real job, thats something positive, dont play poker and be called a bum

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EDIT - pot was 50 ish he called 67 with 39...

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he didnt call 67 with "39" he called with a [censored] flushdraw and a gutshot god damn it

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

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Here's <a href="http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp12312001.shtml">Something Positive</a>.

For a lesbian, you seem to suck a whole mess o' dick.

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Not only are you an [censored], you can't even figure out how to post a link.

Re: Somebody please tell me something positive....
 

He put you on AK and was afraid you sucked out on him, wtf is the problem exactly? MORAN!