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This is mostly related to Fantasy Football (only because that is all I play at the moment) but this can refer to any fantasy league.

What are peoples' thoughts on selling/dumping your team for money and picks the following year.

For instance, I have a team that is very bad, Big Ben, Reggie Bush, Marshawn Lynch, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Vernon Davis, etc etc etc.

I am currently 3-5 and in last place in the whole league. I paid for multiple transactions (4 bucks each) in this league. I am now trying to recoup my transaction fees as well as some of my original investment by selling players and accumulating picks for next season.

I just made a deal:
Steve Smith + Marshawn Lynch
for
22 bucks + 4th round pick + D. Rhodes + J. Norwood

This is just one deal, I've been offered 20 bucks for Chad Johnson and imagine I'll get offers for Big Ben and Bush, I will dump all of these players. The commish is making offers and he is already not liking the look of this..


My question is this, what do you guys think of this as far as the integrity of league? Is this legit? Is this unfair? Everyone has equal opportunity to buy my players, it comes down to who wants these bums the most?

Also, think about these factors:
-I will have more picks early on next season (dump my later round picks)
-The teams I play here on out will romp me (i may even have an incomplete roster which nets to 0)

What are the other pros/cons? I like it because it makes it very NFL like in the sense that I can manage my team however I want and people can trade their picks for next season if they choose.

Thoughts on whether it is good or bad for fantasy?

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Def is very bush league, I agree with your commish. If you did this I would lock your team and kick you out of the league.

EDIT: Of course I would warn you first

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He has already sent out a commish note:

#1) If you trade a 5th round pick , you will lose any pick
in the 5th round and Kyle will select 2 in that round. You
will select in a make up round once the draft is over.

#2) If you receive a draft pick ( in this case Kyle ) and
the team you trade with is not in the league next year that
is your loss, we will not hold a new owner resposible for
giving up a pick that they did not deal away.

#3) If money is part of the transaction then it will be
settled between the 2 parties.

I like his rules personally.

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any fantasy league allowing this kind of thing would almost certainly be terrible

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I agree I feel like an angle shooter doing this but, answer me this, at 4 dollars per transaction, just to replace my BYE players I will be investing more into a product that simply cannot win, no matter what I do. (I've made 15 transactions and invested into the pot overall).

However, I no longer feel like invested into something that I know doesn't stand a chance. So if I were to leave my team for dead, not replace BYEs, and all that, wouldn't I still be giving people a huge edge against me?

The poor part about it is people willing to spend money are getting players. I can't defend this as I feel shady about doing it, that's why I'm looking for thoughts on the matter for next season. As of right now I've recouped 22 bucks and a pick next season.

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I agree I feel like an angle shooter doing this but, answer me this, at 4 dollars per transaction, just to replace my BYE players I will be investing more into a product that simply cannot win, no matter what I do. (I've made 15 transactions and invested into the pot overall).

However, I no longer feel like invested into something that I know doesn't stand a chance. So if I were to leave my team for dead, not replace BYEs, and all that, wouldn't I still be giving people a huge edge against me?

The poor part about it is people willing to spend money are getting players. I can't defend this as I feel shady about doing it, that's why I'm looking for thoughts on the matter for next season. As of right now I've recouped 22 bucks and a pick next season.

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What stupid league chargers 4 bucks per transaction that is so gay, bitch at your commish plsssssssss.

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What stupid league chargers 4 bucks per transaction that is so gay, bitch at your commish plsssssssss.

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We did this to inflate the prize pool. We wanted more money in the pot. In fact it's added well over a hundred bucks to the winner, we had contests at the draft (beer pong, whiffle ball, flip cup, etc) division vs division for free transactions (I earned 7). I burnt through those 7 and still invested about 32 more bucks up until this point trying to steer this team the right way, didn't work.

Luckily my other two teams are riding Mr. Brady to victory.

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What stupid league chargers 4 bucks per transaction that is so gay, bitch at your commish plsssssssss.

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We did this to inflate the prize pool. We wanted more money in the pot. In fact it's added well over a hundred bucks to the winner, we had contests at the draft (beer pong, whiffle ball, flip cup, etc) division vs division for free transactions (I earned 7). I burnt through those 7 and still invested about 32 more bucks up until this point trying to steer this team the right way, didn't work.

Luckily my other two teams are riding Mr. Brady to victory.

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Just up the buy in or make a last place team/2nd to last place team pay more money to winner so no one loses interest at the end of the season. This would up the prize pool too and is much better imo.

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This is beyond shady.

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I dunno, this seems perfectly fair to me, and if you don't like it, you shouldn't join a league that is set up like this to begin with.

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6/8 people have voted, 4 to 2 in favor.

The more I am on the phone wheeling and dealing and creating bidding wars, the more I love it.

And to think, in the 3rd and 4th round I'll have 3 picks each, Antonio Gates will be sitting there, and I'll be like I got my RB in 1, QB in 2, RB and WR in 3, TE w/ 1st pick in 4 and WR again? Why not..

Edit: Doesn't include the 42 bucks I've recouped this season either, transaction fees + some of my original buy in. I'm starting to like this? Why not make it more like pro sports? Bad teams sell players late in the season

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What stupid league chargers 4 bucks per transaction that is so gay, bitch at your commish plsssssssss.


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This isn't standard?

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This isn't standard?

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No i've never played in a league like that

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What stupid league chargers 4 bucks per transaction that is so gay, bitch at your commish plsssssssss.


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This isn't standard?

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No i've never played in a league like that

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anyone that's in the playoffs now, can win the world series. we saw that last year with the cardinals. they looked like the worst team going into the playoffs but emerged as the world champions. anyone has a chance.

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Ghey

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If its legal to trade guys for picks and/or cash than you have every right to do so.

The only real downside is when the other owners realize how good your team will be and decide to change the rules next year.

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how can 3-5 be last place... and if it is that means there should be a lot of teams with 4 or 5 wins

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Trading picks and stuff like that is fine, especially if you are in a keeper or dynasty league.

I don't like involving $$$ exchanging hands. Maybe he could offer to cover your next 4-5 transactions so at least its making its way back into the pot or something. I could see situations like "well its just $20, I want to beat these guys pretty bad whatever it takes" or stupid crap like that.

By the way, maybe you are in an 8-team league or something where everyone's team is loaded, but why are you hitting the panic button? Especially at 3-5?

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I'm in a 10 team league, and I'm hitting the panic button because I'm last in points, power rankings, and several other factors and it's pretty clear I'm not going to win in a winner take all league.

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If this is a yearly league, I would have no problem trading picks as it helps you next year, but I've never seen the money thing. Again, if this were somehow going to the prize pool it would be fine, but you're basically marginally helping yourself next year and otherwise tanking, which I don't like

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The funny thing is these guys are worried about the picks more than the side money.

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The funny thing is these guys are worried about the picks more than the side money.

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OBV. The side money doesn't affect next season like the picks do.

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Trading future picks should only be allowed if agreed upon before the season. Allowing someone to do this without a rule in place ruins all credibility of the league. Though it doesn't sound like there was much to begin with.

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3-5 with the way those bums have performed is pretty good. And now Roesthlisberger, Lynch, Davis, and Bush are starting to come around. Your team actually looks pretty good going forward in most traditional scoring leagues IMO.

Also, how can 3-5 be last place? And if it is, it can't be by much. I don't really see how your team is not comptetitive.

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I've got no problem with the rules of the league, I just think that if you're going to be playing by these rules you should probably have an earlier trade deadline (say, week 6 like in the NFL) to discourage tanking like this.

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Standings for those who wonder how,
and it's not that I don't think I could finish close to .500 it's that I have no shot at taking it all.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t.../standings.jpg

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I have no shot at taking it all.


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YOU ARE 2 GAMES OUT OF 1st PLACE

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notice points for please, i'm not even beating the bad teams

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I think it's perfectly fine.

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Trading picks and stuff like that is fine, especially if you are in a keeper or dynasty league.


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If has to be a keeper league, otherwise people will just sell off everybody when they are eliminated mathematically.

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any fantasy league allowing this kind of thing would almost certainly be terrible

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I've found that trading future picks should be limited to the offseason. If it's a keeper league and you trade for a keeper, that's different. Money should never be involved. Your team isn't that bad. You must be new to fantasy football, because in an H2H league, anything can happen in the postseason.

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Standings for those who wonder how,
and it's not that I don't think I could finish close to .500 it's that I have no shot at taking it all.

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You still blew up your team way too early. I don't know your whole roster, but the guys you mentioned have a solid chance to be very good going forward, and all of them have excellent 15-16 matchups.

And unless your trade deadline is this week, you could have waited another couple weeks to see if you improved, and still been able to sell your guys off at maybe even higher prices if you didn't. Whatever, though...

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$4 per transaction blows ass. I wouldn't even participate in this league again.

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I dunno, this seems perfectly fair to me, and if you don't like it, you shouldn't join a league that is set up like this to begin with.

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LOL if i was in your league i would def not play next year with you getting all these extra picks.

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Your team actually looks pretty good going forward

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notice points for please, i'm not even beating the bad teams

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What does everyone think about dumping their bad team in a non-keeper league when you are in last place? I'm seriously considering this.

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What does everyone think about dumping their bad team in a non-keeper league when you are in last place? I'm seriously considering this.

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gay

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I think it is just a really bad idea in general. In theory it seems fine but I just don't think it will play out like you think it will. The real life salary cap machinations of an NFL franchise won't translate to fantasy football. You'll most likely alienate a bunch of people in the league by doing this and if you lose anyone next year, how are you going to replace them? No way would I join a league where my team was crappy and I know there are 2 teams with 10 draft picks in the first few rounds.

Not to mention the fact that this really doesn't reward the owners who are active and ahead of the game. When anyone can just pony up 20$ to get a good player it just seems to go against what should be making these leagues fun.

The only way this works is if this is and has always been a keeper league, and if the people in the league are total sports nuts who are as into this as you are. Keep us posted how it all works out.

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notice points for please, i'm not even beating the bad teams

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Have you ever played fantasy football before? Dude, there is a very decent non-zero possibility that you end up first place in your division. 2 games back is nothing. And it's not like you're insanely behind in points. Hell, if you have JUST ONE big week, you're right back in it. How many teams make the playoffs?