set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

Villain is a regular, playing 25/10/1.3 over large sample (5k hands)
total AF is 1.3
flop/turn/river AF is: 3.3/2.6/3.6
just to show he is passive preflop but kinda agressive postflop.


Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($100.00)
BB ($255.34)
UTG ($98.25)
MP ($44.00)
Hero ($147.54)
Button ($160.02)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($9.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $24.07</font>, Hero calls $16.07.

River: ($57.64) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $131.95 (All-In)</font>, Hero has $119 left

I called turn to c/c river but this shove was a little more than expected [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
My image is probably 18/16 and agressive. I was not thinking about folding at first because I would expect him to bet the flop with a flushdraw and don't think he can shove anything but a flush/bluf on this river.
No cbet because it's a bad flop and I expect him to make a move on me a lot here in position.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

I think this is a fold

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

his line strikes me as nuts (or close to it), or a bluff. You aren't getting great odds on a call, so I think you need a better read before you can call this ("kinda aggressive postflop" just isn't enough imo).

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

I think your stuck calling this IMO. I'd expect to win this over 50% of the time

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

I think you should have c-bet this flop heads-up. This is a very tough river decision. I would fold it. But if you had c-bet, then you could evaluate if he had a FD. If he is rational though, there is no hand you beat on the river (66, 99, club-club). The only hand you beat is AJ. This is therefore a clear fold.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

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The only hand you beat is AJ. This is therefore a clear fold.

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I beat a bluf, he would never push AJ here imo. It's either a bluf or a flush (and most likely nutflush) (like mossberg said)

Cbet is meh, I very often cbet but this seemed like a good hand to mix it up and not cbet for once (oop vs regular on bad flop kinda deepstacked)

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

The problem is part of the value from raising w/ 22 is fold equity postflop. Why would you not try to take it down. It makes the hand easier to play.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

I don't understand not c-betting. You have no idea where button stands, and the second best possible card hits for you and you still are pretty much done. Does anyone agree with a c-bet on flop and double barrel $16 on turn, fold to shove on the turn?

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

I think not cbetting this flop is good. It hits his range fairly hard, and he's also aggro enough to raise with any of the many draws out there.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

by not cbetting, I'm obviously just giving up because I don't think it's profitable here. Unless I hit my 2-outer or Q/K/A.

I cbet a lot, but when literally all the negative factors are there to not cbet I think it's ok to give up once in a while. OR he hit this flop. OR he will make a move on me since he is in position, deepstacked and the board is not too great. I think he will not fold enough to cbet everytime in this spot.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

not cbetting is fine given hero's read on villain IMO.
River is a call, I think. It is doubtful that an agro opponent will check flop with a FD, and the only conceivable overset is really only 666 which is unlikely to valueshove river anyway.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

cbetting this sucks. Just because you raise, doesn't mean you have to bet.

Fold this river. You say his range is really polarized, and I really don't think he bluffs even close to the same frequency that he plays a hand for value like this.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

fold, it makes it easier that the river is an A. i'd usually cbet this flop. turn is an interesting street, i would 3b against some villains.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

interesting, but my plan was to make him bluf once more (this was what I believed to be most likely on the turn) and not loose 150BB if he turned a flush.
Because I figured a decent hand I beat was only a very small part of his range on the turn so no point in getting value from one.

River is ppb a fold, but a close one imo because the big stacks makes bluffing a bit more likely and I think it's a air or nuts situation [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

yeah this deep 3b is prob bad against alot of villain actually. forgot we were 150. Although i would with alot of history because you look FOS,and with some villains they'll bet the flop with a flush draw every time.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

Isn't this a good thing in this hand? I win on the river from a bluff and loose minimal to a flush?

If his range contains lots of decent holdings I agree with 3betting (if we were 100BB) because he will look me up with some mediocre hands.

i see your point though, thanks for the comments.

Re: set facing overpush on river (150BB stacks)
 

preflop is fine

flop is fine

turn - i'm c/c like you to keep the pot small and to allow him to keep bluffing
* I am being cautious here as I think he would have bet the flop with any made hand or total bluff, but would check behind on the flop with a draw. When he raises me on the turn that tells me either the 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] helped him or he is on a total bluff.

river i think is a fold. Our hand either looks like a draw on the turn or we're slowplaying. If we were on a draw an Ace hits a decent portion of our range, and if we were slowplaying villain has to know he is getting stacked. He isn't pushing here as a total bluff often.