2007 NFL half-season awards
Now that the first half of the season is in the books, who would you give the post-season awards to at this point in the season? Here are my choices.
All-Pro Team QB Tom Brady, Patriots RB Ronnie Brown, Dolphins RB Marion Barber, Cowboys WR Randy Moss, Patriots WR Braylon Edwards, Browns TE Antonio Gates, Chargers DE Aaron Kampmann, Packers DE Kyle Vanden Bosch, Titans DT Albert Haynesworth, Titans DT Kevin Williams, Vikings OLB DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys OLB Shawne Merriman, Chargers ILB James Farrior, Steelers ILB Kirk Morrison, Raiders CB Champ Bailey, Broncos CB Rashean Mathis, Jaguars S Bob Sanders, Colts S Adrian Wilson, Cardinals Offensive POY Tom Brady, Patriots Defensive POY Bob Sanders, Colts MVP Tom Brady, Patriots Offensive ROY Adrian Peterson, Vikings Defensive ROY Amobi Okoye, Texans Comeback POY Albert Haynesworth, Titans Coach Bill Belichick, Patriots -These are just my opinions based on which players have impressed me personally in the 5 or 6 NFL games a week that I watch, and based on looking at a few different stats. I don't know of any good stats that measure individual defense so it's possible that my defensive All-Pro team has horrible choices. I don't know enough about offensive line play so I didn't even try to judge them. |
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for the most part purty good, i think the arguments start at the LBs on down. chad j > edwards tho.
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Sean Taylor >> Adrian Wilson
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Sean Taylor >> Adrian Wilson [/ QUOTE ] nah |
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[ QUOTE ] Sean Taylor >> Adrian Wilson [/ QUOTE ] nah [/ QUOTE ] Sean Taylor has 5 INTs, a forced fumble and 9 passes defended. Adrian Wilson has 2 INTs, 0 forced fumbles and 2 passes defended. |
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Sean Taylor >> Adrian Wilson [/ QUOTE ] was thinking the same thing |
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Sean Taylor has 5 INTs, a forced fumble and 9 passes defended. Adrian Wilson has 2 INTs, 0 forced fumbles and 2 passes defended. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think INTs and PD's are the best way to judge a safety. My favorite safeties are guys like Sanders and Wilson who make plays all over the field, as opposed to guys like Taylor and Ed Reed who sit back in coverage most of the time but are much weaker against the run. Taylor still would've been my third if I listed three safeties, FYI. I was hoping you guys would give your own awards instead of just picking one line from my post to bash... |
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writing out that type of thing takes too long. easier just to comment a lil on yours.
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chad j > edwards tho. [/ QUOTE ] No. |
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Willis over Okoye.
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Adrian Peterson > Marion Barber
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[ QUOTE ] chad j > edwards tho. [/ QUOTE ] No. [/ QUOTE ] yes actually. this isn't fantasy football; no need to overrate the extra TDs edward has. chad's been the best player on a bad bengals team and palmer vs anderson is actually in anderson's favor this year, so that's not a point in edwards' favor anymore. toss in the fact that chad has been elite for a while and it's a slam dunk. |
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toss in the fact that chad has been elite for a while and it's a slam dunk. [/ QUOTE ] that has nothing to do with this year |
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[ QUOTE ] toss in the fact that chad has been elite for a while and it's a slam dunk. [/ QUOTE ] that has nothing to do with this year [/ QUOTE ] don't know about you but in all-star games / all-nba / etc. etc. i put value in how likely the performance is to sustain. i'm not selecting derek anderson as my pro bowl QB no matter what if there's a marc bulger (obv they're in diff conferences, it's a point) who had a reasonably comparable year but has done it many a time before. it's basically a tally of who the best players are; it's silly to purposefully restrict your view. i mean it's like saying pujols is no longer a top 5 player or something because he had an "off" year this year. still the best player in the game etc. etc. |
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To clarify, I was posting who I think has played at the highest level during the first 8 weeks. If I were making projections I wouldn't have included Ronnie Brown (who has easily been the best RB in the NFL so far this year) because he's out for the season.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] toss in the fact that chad has been elite for a while and it's a slam dunk. [/ QUOTE ] that has nothing to do with this year [/ QUOTE ] don't know about you but in all-star games / all-nba / etc. etc. i put value in how likely the performance is to sustain. i'm not selecting derek anderson as my pro bowl QB no matter what if there's a marc bulger (obv they're in diff conferences, it's a point) who had a reasonably comparable year but has done it many a time before. it's basically a tally of who the best players are; it's silly to purposefully restrict your view. i mean it's like saying pujols is no longer a top 5 player or something because he had an "off" year this year. still the best player in the game etc. etc. [/ QUOTE ] Yea but then its turns into some dumb popularity contest, like the mlb all star game. I also don't agree that TDs don't count towards something, all-pros are picked by stats. Its like saying Beckett or CC won't win the CY Young this year because Johan Santana is obv the best pitcher in baseball and he should win. |
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Tomlinson and Addai best backs so far
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yeah you can't ignore LT he's #1 fantasy back of the season too despite his slow start
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Yea but then its turns into some dumb popularity contest, like the mlb all star game. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, so you can't prevent your own picks from turning into a popularity contest? Okay. Sorry about that. I can, though. [ QUOTE ] I also don't agree that TDs don't count towards something, all-pros are picked by stats. Its like saying Beckett or CC won't win the CY Young this year because Johan Santana is obv the best pitcher in baseball and he should win. [/ QUOTE ] Oh, so now the goal is to predict the faulty selections the actual selectors will make? Okay. You can do that. I'll just pick who I think are the best choices irrelevant of what actually happens. |
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[ QUOTE ] Yea but then its turns into some dumb popularity contest, like the mlb all star game. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, so you can't prevent your own picks from turning into a popularity contest? Okay. Sorry about that. I can, though. [ QUOTE ] I also don't agree that TDs don't count towards something, all-pros are picked by stats. Its like saying Beckett or CC won't win the CY Young this year because Johan Santana is obv the best pitcher in baseball and he should win. [/ QUOTE ] Oh, so now the goal is to predict the faulty selections the actual selectors will make? Okay. You can do that. I'll just pick who I think are the best choices irrelevant of what actually happens. [/ QUOTE ] meh w/e arguing over whos like 2nd or 3rd seems dumb....im probably just being a homer anyways |
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I was hoping you guys would give your own awards instead of just picking one line from my post to bash... [/ QUOTE ] If my list differed significantly from yours I would do this but I think it's pretty good for the most part. I'll just make a case for Sean Taylor again. He's way improved from the last couple years, the same athletic ability but much more disciplined this year, and it's made a huge difference. I'll also make a case for London Fletcher at ILB. Last year the Redskins defense was terrible (31st in YPG, 32nd in YPP, 27th in PPG, 32nd in turnovers), and that was with a much better offense to help them out. He's been the biggest upgrade this year and I think the only reason that defense isn't in the bottom half of the NFL again. He's all over the field involved in almost every play, run or pass. 67 tackles, 7 PDs, 2 INTs and a fumble recovery through 7 games. |
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He's been the biggest upgrade this year [/ QUOTE ] That's a poor reason to argue for someone. DUCY? |
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Sanders might be the best choice for DPOY, I don't know. But every time I see Tennessee play, Haynesworth is just freaking dominant.
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Rbs are something like this
Brown > Westbrook > Peterson > Barber > Addai > Tomlinson Projecting for the rest of the season it is probably Tomlinson > Westbrook > Barber > Peterson > Addai > Brown Not positive for Tomlinson on the last one and I could be overrating him. Regardless he is prob better than AP and Addai |
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Derek Anderson needs to win something :-P
edit Waiver Wire Wonder Award ftw |
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Offensive line getting a lot of love here imo.
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Offensive line getting a lot of love here imo. [/ QUOTE ] It's not that I don't appreciate the importance of offensive line play, I just don't consider myself qualified to judge who the best guys are, and I really hate when people spout off on things they don't know about so I don't do it. I can tell which teams have the best O-lines but sometimes it's hard to single out different players on the same line. |
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[ QUOTE ] Offensive line getting a lot of love here imo. [/ QUOTE ] It's not that I don't appreciate the importance of offensive line play, I just don't consider myself qualified to judge who the best guys are, and I really hate when people spout off on things they don't know about so I don't do it. I can tell which teams have the best O-lines but sometimes it's hard to single out different players on the same line. [/ QUOTE ] Pats O-Line. All of them. I feel like Brady gets an average of 30 seconds to find an open receiver. |
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[ QUOTE ] Offensive line getting a lot of love here imo. [/ QUOTE ] It's not that I don't appreciate the importance of offensive line play, I just don't consider myself qualified to judge who the best guys are, and I really hate when people spout off on things they don't know about so I don't do it. I can tell which teams have the best O-lines but sometimes it's hard to single out different players on the same line. [/ QUOTE ] I respect that attitude. It kills me when people pretend to pay attention to individual OLmen. Nice list - I'd definitely go w/ Addai over Barber. |
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Mentioned already: Westbrook, Taylor
Here's a few that haven't been mentioned that I think deserve strong consideration: Osi Umenyiora Jason Witten Nick Barnett Trent Cole Barrett Ruud |
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Jauron
Belechick Dungy Everyone else |
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Comeback player of the year Ben Roethlisberger
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[ QUOTE ] Sean Taylor has 5 INTs, a forced fumble and 9 passes defended. Adrian Wilson has 2 INTs, 0 forced fumbles and 2 passes defended. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think INTs and PD's are the best way to judge a safety. My favorite safeties are guys like Sanders and Wilson who make plays all over the field, as opposed to guys like Taylor and Ed Reed who sit back in coverage most of the time but are much weaker against the run. Taylor still would've been my third if I listed three safeties, FYI. I was hoping you guys would give your own awards instead of just picking one line from my post to bash... [/ QUOTE ] Then you're judging a player by the scheme he plays in. If Taylor were all over the field, he would contstantly be out of position and Washington would be giving up touchdown after touchdown over the top. Given your preferences there aren't many safeties who would qualify for consideration at the start of each season. |
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