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oldmangrimis 10-29-2007 02:28 PM

Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
Chris Ferguson turned $0 into $10,000. Does anyone know where he made the most gains ( the bigest jumps in uints not $ amount), was it from cash game, 1t SNG, or MTT. He did not make any big gains until he got a 2,000 to 3,000 bankroll. also he took a big lose does anyone know what game that was from.

I see that when he play NL cash game he always buy in for 20bb, did this ever change.

pzhon 10-29-2007 03:15 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
Chris Ferguson went from $0 to $10k in a really silly fashion. He played MTTs for which he was clearly underbankrolled, $1 tournaments when he had less than $10, and it took months for him to hit a "big" $100 prize.

I'm not sure why you want to study the details. Several people have done similar things much faster by following more appropriate bankroll management instead of inconsistent and arbitrary rules.

Kimbell175113 10-29-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=8757681

Should be entertaining and educational.

JustLuck 10-29-2007 04:14 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
i turned 50$ into 17k and i started in early may
but i play donkaments

Kimbell175113 10-29-2007 04:16 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
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i turned 50$ into 17k and i started in early may
lol donkaments

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fyp

6471849653 10-29-2007 04:34 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
Too many factors for it to be other than from $0 to $10K.
Other than that it's not the way to start, not without side bets (the results must be proven). Ferguson has said on the table that why not start as he did. He didn't say anything when someone asked how long it took to achieve that $0 to $10,000. The answer would have made him look bad. That shows that what he did was not smart; just from $0 to $10,000, that's all.

Is Ferguson right, that the use of the ministack was the fastest way, or/and the safest way, to build the bankroll? By using smaller stacks he was able to play higher limits than he otherwise could have. If one is playing only some specific limit one makes more using a bigger stack, but that wasn't the case with Ferguson who has the skills to play about any limit.

Nsight7 10-29-2007 06:50 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
I think his use of small-stacking is probably not great, because your variance is high and the tools available to you are not many. Of course I don't recommend buying in for deep-stacked amounts, but something that offers a level of balance, wherein you can use more of your tools while not risking too much and making play overly complicated. I like 60-65 BB personally, but I think that varies with everyone.

I am not one to talk however, as on both of the sites I have gained free bankrolls on I don't think I am on track to beat Ferguson, so maybe I really know precisely jack.

JMX 10-29-2007 07:48 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
If Ferguson had a $0 to $100 challenge, I think a lot of us could beat him.

The 13th 4postle 10-29-2007 08:32 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
Freeorolls suck on FTP from what I hear when he is on the Pokeredge. Bodog has one where you can win over 200 dollars. Also it took him 6 months to get over 100 dolalrs playing full time. He didnt have a job or anything

questions 10-29-2007 08:45 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
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Freeorolls suck on FTP from what I hear when he is on the Pokeredge. Bodog has one where you can win over 200 dollars. Also it took him 6 months to get over 100 dolalrs playing full time. He didnt have a job or anything

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Right, but he was observing strict bankroll guidelines, so there was no "taking a shot at the big time" on his micro-roll. That's why it took six months to get to $100.

The 13th 4postle 10-29-2007 09:10 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
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Freeorolls suck on FTP from what I hear when he is on the Pokeredge. Bodog has one where you can win over 200 dollars. Also it took him 6 months to get over 100 dolalrs playing full time. He didnt have a job or anything

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Right, but he was observing strict bankroll guidelines, so there was no "taking a shot at the big time" on his micro-roll. That's why it took six months to get to $100.

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If you look at his rules he makes exceptions for the microlimts

10-30-2007 08:07 AM

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onesandzeros 10-30-2007 08:22 AM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
Even on a larger size roll you really don't want to go over a 5% max total bankroll (BRx.05) for SNGs / Ring Games. Max 2.5% (BRx.025) for MTTs. Both roughly keep you are 40 MTT buyins or 20 buyins for SNGs / Ring Games. Use this same formula to know when to "move up" or "down" levels.

Unless of course, you are "taking a shot" and thats a whole 'nuther topic then.

pococurante 11-06-2007 05:06 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
It's pretty sick that he managed to do this on FTP... the first few months must have been painful. Finally winning that elusive $2 prize, then losing it in 5 minutes at a cash game... ouch.

It would have been much, much easier at a site with bigger freerolls like Bodog. I play their freerolls once in a while and run into the occasional $5-10 payout, which is so much easier to start a roll with. Even managed to win the 1k freeroll for $262 once.

indianaV8 11-11-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
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i turned 50$ into 17k and i started in early may
but i play donkaments

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Moneymaker turned 40$ into 2.5m$

emo_rom 11-11-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
he discussed this on the poker edge podcast, I love Phil Ivey's commentary on this podcast, it's hilarious:

http://podloc.andomedia.com/dloadTrack.m...poker071005.mp3
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ComeOnNine 11-12-2007 02:37 AM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
ft freerolls are awful

Jeff_B 11-12-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Chris Ferguson Turned $0 Into $10,000 sub question
 
[ QUOTE ]
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i turned 50$ into 17k and i started in early may
but i play donkaments

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Moneymaker turned 40$ into 2.5m$

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Yeah I was going to say I could easily convert $22 into 100k+ in < 24 hours.
simple.
win a double shootout qualifer to sunday million.
win sunday million.


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