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the machine 10-29-2007 04:38 AM

lol live variance
 
1-2 NL kicks my ass so badly and im a lifetime loser in the game. huge beat.

tonight

BB Q10o
limps in 6 spots, i check

flop A K 6 rainbow.
check around

turn J
check, i check UTG leads 12 all folds to me and i vale c/r to 30. he calls.

river 10
i lead 45
he raises
we get it AI
he shows Q4o. nice UTG limp sir


different table. super loose semi aggro. numerous 500-600 pots.

i limp a QJhh up front. no FE here so i decide i want to see a cheap flop. we go 6 handed to flop

flop Q J 6 check to me and i lead 15. 2 callers.

turn 10. i lead 45. lady shoves on me for 82 more. i call

river brick. 89 is good ma'am



AA in CO. limps in a few spots to the hi jack who makes it 8. i make it 48. folds around to him and he calls.

flop 7 8 9 with 2 diamonds.
he leads 50
i ask how much left sir
105$.
i call

turn 7
he says well it looks like im goin home then. bets 50 again.
i shove and he calls.
straight? boat? nah i just got a pair. QQ


river Q

nice hand sir.



super loose aggro as hell guy. mega swingy. had 2k down to 300 up to 1500 down to 400 up to 1200.

1200 at the time of this hand. ive killed him all night cause he sucks so bad.
he opens 19$ standard in position. i call sb with 77 500+deep.
ive been running so bad i say im going to flop the best hand and you will suck out on me.

3 handed to flop.

K 7 6 2 clubs. i check next guy checks loose donkey bets out 40. i make it 150$ loose guy calls.

turn 8 clubs. i check. he bets 150 i call.

river 9 heart. i check he goes all in i call.

A3 of clubs is good sir. nothing like 500BB pots with middle set to the huge donkey at the table who recently just played another 500BB pot with A10 on a 10 high flop and busted K10.



why must i run so bad against these [censored] donkeys.


gg foxwoods

the machine 10-29-2007 04:41 AM

Re: lol live variance
 
ohh and tl;dr

Diamond Lie 10-29-2007 02:39 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
my condolences bro

QQ vs AA I threw up in my mouth a litte, sitting down next to you and seeing him peel the 2 outer.

GSykes 10-29-2007 02:40 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
and this is why live sucks

tannenj 10-29-2007 02:46 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
this is why live poker makes me want to kill myself. this can all happen online in the first 10 minutes of my session and i can shrug it off, play 5,000 more hands in the next eight hours and finish up a few buyins anyway. when it happens live, i'm stuck sitting there listening to half-retarded jerkoffs discuss superstitions and table games. it's 30 hands an hour and it's full ring. jesus [censored] christ i have no idea how/why 2p2ers subject themselves to this [censored].

scott2130 10-29-2007 04:09 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
This same type of crap has been happing to me for the last 4 months. I am about to give up on live poker and just play BJ when I go out. I can't take the beats anymore.

fybpm 10-29-2007 04:17 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
Yea, I love play live.

$3/$5 game, full ring, in the SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Middle position raises to $20, 2 callers, I make it $65 to go, original raiser folds and other calls.

My stack ~$600. His stack ~$250

Flop is 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I bet $130, he insta-calls.
Turn 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I put him all in for his last $120-$140 and he says "i put you on two over-cards, I call"

Turns over J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

River = [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Al_Money 10-29-2007 04:18 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

SDone 10-29-2007 04:25 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
[ QUOTE ]
This same type of crap has been happing to me for the last 4 months. I am about to give up on live poker and just play BJ when I go out. I can't take the beats anymore.

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That's what I do. I'll lose like 100 playing poker and then just jump on blackjack with some friends, since it's more fun anyways. Plus I don't expect to win, so I don't feel bad if I don't.

djj6835 10-29-2007 04:48 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
[ QUOTE ]
he says "i put you on two over-cards, I call"


[/ QUOTE ]

Looks to me like he read you like a book. And also lol at it mattering wtf he puts you on given his hand.

fybpm 10-29-2007 04:59 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
Grant it he has a pair now and has more outs, 4, J, or any [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] for those odds, but Jesus, firs the CALLS a raise for 4x the BB, then he calls a REraise that is 13x the BB with J4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He came over from the 3/6 game that broke up, this took place like at 4am. He bought into the game with $150... I told him he should be shot.

fozzy71 10-29-2007 05:11 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
I deal cards 4 nights a week now. 2/4 and 3/6 Limit, 1/2 No Lim. I am amazed at how people can sit there for 8 hours to only see 250 hands. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I am constantly amazed by how Loose/Passive, Passive everyone is.

Watched a guy last night, Limp Re-Raise to $40 at nl200, then call the 4-bet shove Pre-Flop, for a 100+ more, with A4s - the guy that pushed had AKo.

Nicefingcatch 10-29-2007 08:33 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
I hear ya machine, we cannot win at foxwoods and lose every big pot we are in. Maybe we should play powerball instead?

the machine 10-29-2007 08:59 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
[ QUOTE ]
this is why live poker makes me want to kill myself. this can all happen online in the first 10 minutes of my session and i can shrug it off, play 5,000 more hands in the next eight hours and finish up a few buyins anyway. when it happens live, i'm stuck sitting there listening to half-retarded jerkoffs discuss superstitions and table games. it's 30 hands an hour and it's full ring. jesus [censored] christ i have no idea how/why 2p2ers subject themselves to this [censored].

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i love it because the skill level of 80% of the people there have the skill of a semi decent 25NL or 50NL player at best. and the pot sizes and opening range sizes/bets are equivalent to 400NL.

the variance eats me up though because you have to play pretty damn tight at certain tables so i grind out 200$ 350$ 100$ then drop 600 or 800. blows my mind

Whitewash 10-29-2007 09:05 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
I love when in threads like this, the OP ends up like as much of a fish as his opponents.

the machine 10-29-2007 09:27 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
[ QUOTE ]
I love when in threads like this, the OP ends up like as much of a fish as his opponents.

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explain to me why? do you play live? do you know what its like to play live full ring? do you realize you almost never have fold equity at a table and you have to make hands to win pots?

so go ahead and bash me for open limping QJ suited up front, or whatever other point you were alluding to, but its not a mistake in these games.

notmybeer 10-29-2007 09:29 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
I don't know why I do it to myself either. 2/5NL on the weekend

Hero: $1000
Villain: $900

Hero picks up AA in middle position.

UTG bets $20, UTG+1 calls, donk (who's re-bought for $1000 twice in 1 hour) bets $100, fold, hero raises to $300... fold to MP1 who calls.

Flop: K, 3, 7 rainbow

donk checks, hero gets oh so tricky and checks.

Turn: 2

donk checks, hero bets $500, donk calls

River: T

donk bets last $100, hero cries and calls.

donk turns over TT, FTW.

Sure, I know "bet the flop". I need to take a break from live play. This [censored] just tilts me way too much.

DMoogle 10-29-2007 09:37 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
Nearly 5K posts and you start a thread for this?

Fedorfan 10-29-2007 09:45 PM

Re: lol live variance
 
[ QUOTE ]
this is why live poker makes me want to kill myself. this can all happen online in the first 10 minutes of my session and i can shrug it off, play 5,000 more hands in the next eight hours and finish up a few buyins anyway. when it happens live, i'm stuck sitting there listening to half-retarded jerkoffs discuss superstitions and table games. it's 30 hands an hour and it's full ring. jesus [censored] christ i have no idea how/why 2p2ers subject themselves to this [censored].

[/ QUOTE ]

QFMFT!

And you left off having to listen to the players near you talk about how such and such is in the lucky seat that they are going to get when he leaves, and how they are upset that they didn't call the raise pf with 39s since they would have hit the runner runner flush had they stayed in the whole way.

Even when i win live, i leave on life tilt.


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