10-25 Foxwoods Flopped trips deep vs Frankie Flowers
 

Loose game i just moved to FF's left, he was relatively new to the game and playing avg

to the hand i have 5k and both villians will cover

LMP opens 100, frankie calls in the CO, i call AsJs OTB, one blind comes along

Flop AdAc6d

LMP bets 200 and frankie does the quick glance at his stack and look right back up like it did'nt happen thing
FF calls, i make it 700, LMP folds quick and frankie calls with little deliberation

Turn 8c
FF checks quick, there is 2k in the pot and i have 4.2 left to get value, i do not think frankie has an ace.


This was my first time playing with frankie, i'll say that if this happened near the end of my session vs beginning i would have taken a diff line.

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Having trouble figuring out what to do with the other 80% of your stack.. big surprise..

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This was my first time playing with frankie, i'll say that if this happened near the end of my session vs beginning i would have taken a diff line.

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i'm guessing you went for pot control? from what i remember of FF's play back in my Foxwoods days is accurate, he's an action junkie calling station that plays like his goal is to light money on fire so i'd just bet and then bet again.

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This was my first time playing with frankie, i'll say that if this happened near the end of my session vs beginning i would have taken a diff line.

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i'm guessing you went for pot control? from what i remember of FF's play back in my Foxwoods days is accurate, he's an action junkie calling station that plays like his goal is to light money on fire so i'd just bet and then bet again.

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really? I played with frankie in vegas and although he was a little on theloose side pf he was playing pretty straightforwardly postflop. a little like a cs but not aggressive at all

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bet/shove river looks good to me.

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This was my first time playing with frankie, i'll say that if this happened near the end of my session vs beginning i would have taken a diff line.

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i'm guessing you went for pot control? from what i remember of FF's play back in my Foxwoods days is accurate, he's an action junkie calling station that plays like his goal is to light money on fire so i'd just bet and then bet again.

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really? I played with frankie in vegas and although he was a little on theloose side pf he was playing pretty straightforwardly postflop. a little like a cs but not aggressive at all

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well this was 3 years ago but he just way overplayed everything, tried running huge unrealistic bluffs, and really didn't seem to care about the money at all.

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well this was 3 years ago but he just way overplayed everything, tried running huge unrealistic bluffs, and really didn't seem to care about the money at all.

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this i agree with

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He clearly has 5d2d

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Having trouble figuring out what to do with the other 80% of your stack.. big surprise..

[/ QUOTE ] seriously i haven't shorted more than 200-300 hands in like 4-5 months. I made a lot of money from it, it's old.

i figured my lines were check behind so frankie can convince himself i have a flush draw or bet like 1200-1500.

i checked the turn back because i thought he'd bet about that much on the river with his whole range. but the river paired 6's he bet out 600 and i just called. Frankie shoved his cards into the muck immediately so what draw he had is a mystery.

anyone who knows franky well, does he just not make a big bet here on the river with a busted draw, even if it doesn't pair the board?

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bet the turn man, frankie prolly calls the turn with a fd a lot of the time...(yes, he is that bad. especially against ppl he doesn't know). he gives me "respect" which means he might fold a bare fd on the turn or like a 6 or some pp, but against randoms he doesn't like to fold much. value town him 3 streets

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bet the turn man, frankie prolly calls the turn with a fd a lot of the time...(yes, he is that bad. especially against ppl he doesn't know). he gives me "respect" which means he might fold a bare fd on the turn or like a 6 or some pp, but against randoms he doesn't like to fold much. value town him 3 streets

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lol live sounds really easy

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bet the turn man, frankie prolly calls the turn with a fd a lot of the time...(yes, he is that bad. especially against ppl he doesn't know). he gives me "respect" which means he might fold a bare fd on the turn or like a 6 or some pp, but against randoms he doesn't like to fold much. value town him 3 streets

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lol live sounds really easy

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shhh, dont let out the secret

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lol frankie flowers

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well this was 3 years ago but he just way overplayed everything, tried running huge unrealistic bluffs, and really didn't seem to care about the money at all.

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this i agree with

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FF still plays like this IMO

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he has gotten a little better. doesn't make as many bone headed and hopeless bluffs as he used to and he finds that live fold button once every hour or so too

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he has gotten a little better. doesn't make as many bone headed and hopeless bluffs as he used to and he finds that live fold button once every hour or so too

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I played with him at least twice in the same 10/25 games at Foxwoods during the March/April tournament week this year.
He was pretty outta' control...with his mindless bluffing,table talk,whatever BS,etc.

Either way,getting back to the hand,
I would be getting as much money in on that flop/turn as I could against him.

River card blows tho,as its almost impossible for even him to hang himself. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

He still however bets $600,and insta-mucks.....thats Frankie!

SF

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he has gotten a little better. doesn't make as many bone headed and hopeless bluffs as he used to and he finds that live fold button once every hour or so too

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I played with him at least twice in the same 10/25 games at Foxwoods during the March/April tournament week this year.
He was pretty outta' control...with his mindless bluffing,table talk,whatever BS,etc.

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i played with him about 3 weeks ago in a 10-25 game there that was 100% regulars and he somewhat held his own. nothing too retarded

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he has gotten a little better. doesn't make as many bone headed and hopeless bluffs as he used to and he finds that live fold button once every hour or so too

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I played with him at least twice in the same 10/25 games at Foxwoods during the March/April tournament week this year.
He was pretty outta' control...with his mindless bluffing,table talk,whatever BS,etc.

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i played with him about 3 weeks ago in a 10-25 game there that was 100% regulars and he somewhat held his own. nothing too retarded

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Gary,

I think thats because any good solid regs are onto his BS.
But he def acts up IMO,on a table with new faces/or during the tournament times when its a zoo there,as long as he can get away with it.I have seen jumping around from table to table like a lunatic,looking to bully any table that lets him

I am assuming though,he still plays there often,during non-tourney weeks?

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he's there just about everytime i go. he always makes it a fun table to be at

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he's there just about everytime i go. he always makes it a fun table to be at

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he's there just about everytime i go. he always makes it a fun table to be at

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there was a guy who fit this description at turning stone that i remember someone called 'flowers.' the night i played with you and bobbo he was sitting directly on bobbo's right. is this the same guy or a different 'flowers' ?

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Any of you guys up there towards the end of this week? I'll be up Wed night - Sat.

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Any of you guys up there towards the end of this week? I'll be up Wed night - Sat.

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I will be there for the tourneys this Friday-through the M/E next week

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Nice, I'll be donking around in the 1k and 1.5k and hopefully beating the 5-10 game.

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he's there just about everytime i go. he always makes it a fun table to be at

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there was a guy who fit this description at turning stone that i remember someone called 'flowers.' the night i played with you and bobbo he was sitting directly on bobbo's right. is this the same guy or a different 'flowers' ?

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that was his twin brother, francis flowers.

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I played with FF last time I was up, him and his buddy were at my 5-10 table and it was sort of funny as his buddy kept laying in to him if he wasn't such a spewtard he'd actually win a good amount. He had a couple beats and then pretty much tilted and was raising loosely and giving action all over the place. This was also after hearing him say they were playing every game all night from a variety of different limits (including 10-25 and some high limit games).