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agreed

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Come on, that's the extent of the discussion we get? I thought this was a really, really good episode. The dynamic between Dexter and the sponsor is fascinating and it builds a ton of tension the way they keep closing on Dexter. Even though it makes sense in terms of building to another season, etc., I really can't imagine him getting away with everything. Excellent show anyway.

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Just finished watching it. Will make a more detailed post later, but this could be the best episode of the season and on the better of the series.

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i hate the sponsor character, but i hate pretty much every overly-seriously-artsy-dark character ever on tv. that's not enough to make me stop watching, though.

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The sponsor character is interesting, but this episode was disappointing to me. I don't like Dexter falling apart and making so many clearly reckless decisions, it is way out of character for him. The "dark defender" thing is pretty stupid as well.

This episode seemed to be to be trying a little to hard to be interesting.

The Sgt Doakes plot line is intriguing. He might end up being the "inside" man that helps Dexter get away with it...

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The sponsor character is interesting, but this episode was disappointing to me. I don't like Dexter falling apart and making so many clearly reckless decisions, it is way out of character for him. The "dark defender" thing is pretty stupid as well.

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Yeah, I posted immediately after watching the episode, but after I had 5 or 10 minutes to think about it, I thought it made no sense at all that Dexter would be out on the boat with the blue light. In the first place, he was way too careful to not know if there were blood splatters on his boat. He would have had the boat as clean as it could possibly be right when he dumped the bodies.

And secondly, if he was going to clean the boat, he'd at least take it out on the water. He wouldn't be doing it right in the harbor when he knew that the cops already had an idea which harbor the bodies had been dumped from. The whole timeline there just didn't make sense at all.

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It seems like Dexter is going to discover that Harry was his biological father.

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This never even crossed my mind, but I agree there's a decent chance of the show going this way.

Episode was pretty good, but not great. I think I'm let down any episode he doesn't kill someone.

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I wholeheartedly agree. Thank god for TIVO...I rewinded the shower scene more than once.

And that see-thru shirt she was wearing afterwards...ZOMG.

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And secondly, if he was going to clean the boat, he'd at least take it out on the water. He wouldn't be doing it right in the harbor when he knew that the cops already had an idea which harbor the bodies had been dumped from. The whole timeline there just didn't make sense at all.


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Yeah, that was pretty hard to believe. Even if he didn't realize that there was video surveillance of the dock, he knew from his sister that the investigators had already been by earlier. Standing out in the open on his boat with a black-light and spray bottle is not the smartest move for someone who is supposedly as meticulous as Dexter. Taking the boat out to the open water before checking for blood is the least he could do to cover his tracks.

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I don't like Dexter falling apart and making so many clearly reckless decisions, it is way out of character for him.

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He let things get personal. Someone in the investigation is going to have to help him I think. He's on camera cleaning his boat in one of three docks he could have used, he didn't kill the bar owner and the bar owner knows who he is, Deb and his GF know he went out of town the same night the person that killed his mom got effed up...

I think there is a decent chance the second half of this season or the third season is him on the lam.

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How much do you guys think the writing has been affected by not being based on a book this season? I always wonder when I'm watching season 2 how this season would have been if it had been based off of a second book. Anyway I still think it's the best show on TV period. One problem I saw in the last episode was how Rita's mom gave her letter of resignation before finding another job in Miami? I just don't see a logical conservative woman like her just up and leaving without having another job in place? Maybe they just didn't have her mention it but that bothered me a little bit.

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How much do you guys think the writing has been affected by not being based on a book this season? I always wonder when I'm watching season 2 how this season would have been if it had been based off of a second book. Anyway I still think it's the best show on TV period. One problem I saw in the last episode was how Rita's mom gave her letter of resignation before finding another job in Miami? I just don't see a logical conservative woman like her just up and leaving without having another job in place? Maybe they just didn't have her mention it but that bothered me a little bit.

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I like it because, like last season, I don't really know where it's going. Like last seasons 'Who is the ITK? Why does he care/know about Dex?' questions, this year it's 'Will he get caught? Will he tell anyone? Is he going to kill again?'. I honestly can't tell it's not based off a book.

Regarding Rita's mom, she's moving in w/ Rita, so no need to have a job or place right away. She's trying to drive herself between Rita and Dexter to 'save' Rita. She's manipulative, so I think it fits well w/ the character.

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FWIW him taking his boat out at midnight would be pretty suspicious as well.

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It seems like Dexter is going to discover that Harry was his biological father.

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This never even crossed my mind, but I agree there's a decent chance of the show going this way.

Episode was pretty good, but not great. I think I'm
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I don't know if this is possible. IIRC dexter had to do specific research to make sure that guy was really his biological father in the first season. I may be remembering wrong, or that he was actually testing to see cause of death, not that he was his biological father. Anyone remember in better detail?

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the only complaint I have about this show, is that its pretty obvious dexter will never get caught. It's like 24 and Kiefer Sutherland. The show gets publicity outside the show, and you know that he won't die or in this case get caught, until theres mention of it outside the show first that their stopping the show, or Michael C Hall is leaving etc.

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Yes, this is true he did a dna test in season one.

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Masuka claimed the DNA was a match, that guy was his biological father.

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how would you guys feel about combining some of these shorter tv show threads into a season thread? i don't have a strong feeling about it, i am just kind of thinking because sometimes i see a lot of them on the front page, possibly at the expense of other threads.

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It doesn't really make a difference as the "big" thread would still be bumped and moving other threads down the line just like new threads do.

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Seems like the last shot of this season will be of Dexter smiling in an electric chair.

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I think Showtime realizes that this show is a potentially huge franchise for them. It will not end after two seasons.

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I think Showtime realizes that this show is a potentially huge franchise for them. It will not end after two seasons.

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Very true, money means everything. I think the show would be a lot better if it did end this way though.

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I'm tempted to say harry is dexters father and he confesses to Lila.

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I'm tempted to say harry is dexters father and he confesses to Lila.

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Although this thought crossed my mind as well, DNA proved in season 1 that the ice truck killer killed Dexter's biological father. I don't see how they could change that part of the story in a convincingly enough way for Harry to suddenly become the father. In a show that goes as in depth and detailed as this one, they can't just start changing major facts that were revealed in previous episodes on a whim.

I think he will confess to Lila sometime as well, but at the same time can't imagine him actually doing that (it would be so out of character for him -- but he has been doing a lot of things out of character lately). Either that or she catches him or something.

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1) harry banging dexter's mom has the same effect on me as if he really was his biological father. It really wouldn't effect the story in any other way, it still has that same, "chills" feeling....

2) I'm really convinced the writers are [censored] with the audience with Lila. Personally, i think there is no way Dexter confesses to her

3) the problem with this season is it can't just "blow over" or can't end with all the loose ends wrapping up like last season. They could potentially drag this on forever.

4) dexter would never smile in the electric chair, he is empty, he would simply just sit there and take it.

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Anyone feel that there is a greater connection to the multiple times dexter has overheard people discussing the bay harbor butcher and saying that he should get a medal/is a hero etc? And now with him as a vigilante in the comic book?

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Meh, he says this but I don't buy it. Whether he wants to admit it or not he has feelings for Harry, his mom, Rita, and her kids. He also killed the car salesmen just to save someone else. I think he just so screwed up he deludes himself into thinking he doesn't have any emotion even though he does.

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loved this episode.

i don't understand why people say stuff like, oh Dexter would never make this mistake, he is too meticulous, oh Dexter would sit blankly in the electric chair because he is empty. Clearly Dexter is moving towards being more human, having more feelings, understanding himself better, etc. In fact he is realizing that his 'need' and his emptiness is not 'him', it is what his childhood experience made him become. there is a good explanation and cause for what he is and its conceivable that it could be reversed. He is making more mistakes because his world is falling apart, everything is changing, he is becoming less of a monster and more of a human.

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My roomate and I were debating this last night...
Did Dexter know about the camera and was he out of view from it on his boat or did the camera "catch" him?

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loved this episode.

i don't understand why people say stuff like, oh Dexter would never make this mistake, he is too meticulous, oh Dexter would sit blankly in the electric chair because he is empty. Clearly Dexter is moving towards being more human, having more feelings, understanding himself better, etc. In fact he is realizing that his 'need' and his emptiness is not 'him', it is what his childhood experience made him become. there is a good explanation and cause for what he is and its conceivable that it could be reversed. He is making more mistakes because his world is falling apart, everything is changing, he is becoming less of a monster and more of a human.

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Ya that is clearly one of the key underlying themes of the season thus far. This started last season when he had a decision to make between joining Rudy/Brian or saving Deb and he chose to save Deb and it continued this season as he is letting his guard down.

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loved this episode.

i don't understand why people say stuff like, oh Dexter would never make this mistake, he is too meticulous, oh Dexter would sit blankly in the electric chair because he is empty. Clearly Dexter is moving towards being more human, having more feelings, understanding himself better, etc. In fact he is realizing that his 'need' and his emptiness is not 'him', it is what his childhood experience made him become. there is a good explanation and cause for what he is and its conceivable that it could be reversed. He is making more mistakes because his world is falling apart, everything is changing, he is becoming less of a monster and more of a human.

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Exactly, I feel the same way about this, it obviously bothers me that he is becoming sloppy but like you said he is starting to become more human and now he's making mistakes.

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Come on, that's the extent of the discussion we get? I thought this was a really, really good episode. The dynamic between Dexter and the sponsor is fascinating and it builds a ton of tension the way they keep closing on Dexter. Even though it makes sense in terms of building to another season, etc., I really can't imagine him getting away with everything. Excellent show anyway.

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She was naked right?

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The sponsor character is interesting, but this episode was disappointing to me. I don't like Dexter falling apart and making so many clearly reckless decisions, it is way out of character for him. The "dark defender" thing is pretty stupid as well.

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Yeah, I posted immediately after watching the episode, but after I had 5 or 10 minutes to think about it, I thought it made no sense at all that Dexter would be out on the boat with the blue light. In the first place, he was way too careful to not know if there were blood splatters on his boat. He would have had the boat as clean as it could possibly be right when he dumped the bodies.

And secondly, if he was going to clean the boat, he'd at least take it out on the water. He wouldn't be doing it right in the harbor when he knew that the cops already had an idea which harbor the bodies had been dumped from. The whole timeline there just didn't make sense at all.

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The sponsor is [censored] up Dexter's game. He's being too human now and being lazy. I wanted to think that the late-night boat cleaning was not believable, but I think that he's healing -- becoming the human he really is -- and losing the capacity to stay focused on staying under the radar.

He never really looked for external justification before. He accepted that he was [censored] up in the head as axiomatic; Harry's Law gave him an outlet and excuse for his psychopathy rather than a moral justification.

This episode however seemed to mark a turning point. It hammered away at Dexter's new need for external justification, righteous moral approval even, from his satisfaction at overhearing the guys in the booth at the very beginning of the episode, to the Dark Defender stuff, and finally to reassuring his sponsor that she did the right thing in offing the dealer boyfriend.

This was never on Dexter's mind and now it's all there is.

I like the idea of Doakes becoming an inside man. I think it's possible but I question it after his dance with his Special Ops bro. Sure, Dexter isn't killing innocent wives, but Doakes seems driven to enforce the law in the name of the law as a beacon for the greater good, not driven to support simple vengeance, righteous though it might be to the individual hurt by the assailant's crime.

In any case this season is keeping me on my toes as much if not more so than last season. What a great [censored] show!

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This was the pivotal show of the season,IMO. All the subplots took a direction during this hour; Dexter's relationship with Lila picked up a lot of momentum; Dexter may well be seen on the tapes on his boat, moving the case more in his direction; Rita's mother is moving in with her, making this relationship near impossible.

From here on, look for the freight train to really start rolling . . . it's going to be a wild ride from here to the end, much like the first season after the identity of the ITK was clearly revealed.

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did you guys know that his sponsor is Bill Murray's daughter? im not sure how much, if at all, or in what way, this changes how i feel about her nipples

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Different Bill Murray.

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He would smile because the "dark passenger" would somehow be gone and he would've regained parts of his humane feelings.

It's kinda cheesy thought, I know, but I bet the people who produce this show could pull it off.