ferguson from 12k to 26k
 

chris ferguson has went from 12k to 26 k for the month of october. i hardly see the guy play. he short donks a few tables here and there........he plays usually for no more than an hour.........i doubt i even see him on everyday yet he makes 14k in one month. to top it off, i hardly see the guy win.

not tryin to knock the guy but this seems like bs to me. maybe the guy scored on a donkament?......idk.

anyone know something i dont?

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RATHOLER

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does he actually play as Chris Ferguson or does he go by a different screen name?

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chris ferguson has went from 12k to 26 k for the month of october. i hardly see the guy play. he short donks a few tables here and there........he plays usually for no more than an hour.........i doubt i even see him on everyday yet he makes 14k in one month. to top it off, i hardly see the guy win.

not tryin to knock the guy but this seems like bs to me. maybe the guy scored on a donkament?......idk.

anyone know something i dont?

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well if you didn't personally see it I gotta call BS too

I mean come on guyz...

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he was playing 30-60 horse just now...

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he was playing 30-60 horse just now...

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did he win? i saw him play 10/20 plo too. he didnt win.

its not hard to break the math down and figure out what it takes to make 14k in one month at the levels he plays. he never buys in full so i figure unless he was on a major heater or cashed a decent donkament, he'd have to play a lot more hours than i see him do to make 14k.

idk, its just an observation. i been playing for years and i know what it takes to make 14k in a month at those levels. it takes more than a few hours here and there.......espeacially shortstacking.

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Over 29k...

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i played some 10/20 with him earlier this month...

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iv never seen him play @ my table, and i grind a ton (I have an iron man icon w/ my avatar), which leads me to believe he hasnt made 26k and FT is just BSing us.

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That is true. Ill tell you the real reason.

Chris never plays, and when he does he is always losing.
When it first started 0-10k, he made like 5$ and would rarely play. People would ask how much he had, and it would change daily even if he just started. Its such BS.

FullTilt wants these idiots to deposit $50 to try what chris did, and lose it. So they keep depositing 100 times, and just donate to FT.

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iv never seen him play @ my table, and i grind a ton (I have an iron man icon w/ my avatar), which leads me to believe he hasnt made 26k and FT is just BSing us.

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i mean, the guy went from 600 to 17.5k in less than a month, yet theres no stats........just a graph about how he rode 6 bucks for 6 months and then a total bankroll graph that seems to grow like a weed.

the more i think of it, the more it seems like bs. its almost a slap in the face of anyone with intelligence. 600 to 17.5k in way less than a month.......short stacking and hardly ever playing, and when i do rarely see him play, i dont see him winning at an alarming rate. actually, i see him usually lose.

if he made the majority of this money.......now at over 27k.......through donkaments, then cool, but he should at least post results on his website.

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That is true. Ill tell you the real reason.

Chris never plays, and when he does he is always losing.
When it first started 0-10k, he made like 5$ and would rarely play. People would ask how much he had, and it would change daily even if he just started. Its such BS.

FullTilt wants these idiots to deposit $50 to try what chris did, and lose it. So they keep depositing 100 times, and just donate to FT.

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FT is a tough site to embark on such a project, but regardless, all Ferguson is demonstrating is the fact that poor bankroll management foils everyone, but if you manage your bankroll wisely, anyone can succeed. I'm doing something similar, and I have been doing very well at it.

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That is true. Ill tell you the real reason.

Chris never plays, and when he does he is always losing.
When it first started 0-10k, he made like 5$ and would rarely play. People would ask how much he had, and it would change daily even if he just started. Its such BS.

FullTilt wants these idiots to deposit $50 to try what chris did, and lose it. So they keep depositing 100 times, and just donate to FT.

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well, i'm not acusing chris of bs just yet but i am very skeptical. espeacially considering that there is charity tied into his supposed winnings.

i notice a lot of charity ties to poker these days. they make it well known on espn about who is donating how much to whom ever with their donkament winnings.

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Don't many people datamine the FT tables? I also think this is BS. The best short stackers have very marginal earn rates. And even if he went on a huge heater I just can't see it making that big a deal when he's playing with 1/5th stacks and ratholing.

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does he actually play as Chris Ferguson or does he go by a different screen name?

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He uses the name David Benyamine.

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That is true. Ill tell you the real reason.

Chris never plays, and when he does he is always losing.
When it first started 0-10k, he made like 5$ and would rarely play. People would ask how much he had, and it would change daily even if he just started. Its such BS.

FullTilt wants these idiots to deposit $50 to try what chris did, and lose it. So they keep depositing 100 times, and just donate to FT.

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FT is a tough site to embark on such a project, but regardless, all Ferguson is demonstrating is the fact that poor bankroll management foils everyone, but if you manage your bankroll wisely, anyone can succeed. I'm doing something similar, and I have been doing very well at it.

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yeah, but how many hours a day are you playing? chris plays in his spare time at best and makes incrimental jumps of epic proportions.

c'mon.......600 into 17.k in less than a month......practicing strict bankroll management.........in his spare time.

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The man is a God, well at least a Jesus.

Razz FTW

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does he actually play as Chris Ferguson or does he go by a different screen name?

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All FTP pros play with there real names and with an avatar that looks like them.

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He is horrible at Razz

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If he's been playing $10/$20 PLO then it's very possible he could go on a $15k heater. The graph also shows a $10k downswing. It is not all made up anyway, the $104 tournament win mentioned here http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/chris-ferguson-challenge did happen and he's up about $3k in the last year in tournaments.

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no [censored] way

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Don't many people datamine the FT tables? I also think this is BS. The best short stackers have very marginal earn rates.

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Yeah, itslinda is marginal.

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what the hell kinda graph is that? that could be easily made up. it's not even a PT graph. i seriously think he didn't do this 0 to 10k legit. i refuse to believe he made so much following his type of game with his 5% shortstacking [censored]. he's also not a very good shorstacker from what i've seen, he pushes any pair to Q9OS+ all day any day. and just look at the space between $0-$10k mark. you're telling me a shortstacker hasn't had one 10 buyin downswing?

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If he's been playing $10/$20 PLO then it's very possible he could go on a $15k heater. The graph also shows a $10k downswing. It is not all made up anyway, the $104 tournament win mentioned here http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/chris-ferguson-challenge did happen and he's up about $3k in the last year in tournaments.

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the downswing can be manufactured as well. its not proof of anything.

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I played some 2/4 NL with him this month...he's down but over a suepr small sample size.

He's the most annoying ratholer ever...I hate him.

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i'm not sure i buy the graph. a little more concrete proof would be nice...

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That chart resembles a Kelly betting criterion chart, where you adopt a simple betting strategy to scale your bets in proportion to your bankroll (if you are faithful in scaling your bets, the theory is that you can never go broke, as you accommodate downswings as you also accommodate upswings). Anyway, mathematically, a Kelly chart starts small, and stays small for a very long time, and then suddenly it takes off, as with this chart.

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There are probably a lot of reasons why these pros are giving money to charity - foremost is probably that this is what many successful people do (philanthropy) when they have an income. There is a religious basis for it, but also some people just do it because they want to. Another reason is that it helps give poker a good, happy face.

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he stacked my buddy at 10/20 nlhe

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hes a superuser with 1000% rb.

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he was at my sunday mulligan table today and his avatar freaked me out. It makes him look like a meth addict.

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He said, during the Mulligan, that He is up to 28k.

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I gave him 6k this week.

4k o8, 2k at razz. Bastard.

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As you can see on the next chart, getting started wasn’t easy. In fact, it took more than seven months of steady play until he got his bankroll to stabilize at about $6.50.

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lol, why on earth would any good poker player put themselves through this?

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As you can see on the next chart, getting started wasn’t easy. In fact, it took more than seven months of steady play until he got his bankroll to stabilize at about $6.50.

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lol, why on earth would any good poker player put themselves through this?

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Good players don't put themselves through this.

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I gave him 6k this week.

4k o8, 2k at razz. Bastard.

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wow.......200 at a time i'm sure.

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As you can see on the next chart, getting started wasn’t easy. In fact, it took more than seven months of steady play until he got his bankroll to stabilize at about $6.50.

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lol, why on earth would any good poker player put themselves through this?

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Good players don't put themselves through this.

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why not?? never put up more than 5% of your roll, play every once in a while and zoom zoooom zooooooooom your way to the top.

its easy.

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As you can see on the next chart, getting started wasn’t easy. In fact, it took more than seven months of steady play until he got his bankroll to stabilize at about $6.50.

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lol, why on earth would any good poker player put themselves through this?

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side action ldo

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guys i was leveling BTW.
no way any of you can accurately know anything about chris's playing habits.

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That is true. Ill tell you the real reason.

Chris never plays, and when he does he is always losing.
When it first started 0-10k, he made like 5$ and would rarely play. People would ask how much he had, and it would change daily even if he just started. Its such BS.

FullTilt wants these idiots to deposit $50 to try what chris did, and lose it. So they keep depositing 100 times, and just donate to FT.

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smart observation.