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willw9 10-28-2007 12:58 PM

400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
Villain is littlerock09, relatively unknown, probably taggish and solid if I had to guess. I think he raised in the CO or button in both of the last 2 orbits and took the blinds both times. My image should be taggish as well.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $349.60
BTN: $502.90
Hero (SB): $438.40
BB: $608.55
UTG: $430.90

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52</font>, BB folds, CO calls $38

Flop: ($108) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets ?</font>

What's my bet here and why?

captainwacky 10-28-2007 01:12 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
think of what you'd bet with AA, KK, JJ, AK, 23, etc.... and then bet it. They shouldn't be that much different.

Jamougha 10-28-2007 01:42 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
I think checkraise is better here, it sucks when you bet/call ai against AK/Q

luvetoholdem 10-28-2007 01:52 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
Id give up right here. So drawy and such a nice flop to get it in for the villan. Hes not folding, and I dont see what he will fold.

nuggetz87 10-28-2007 02:04 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
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Id give up right here. So drawy and such a nice flop to get it in for the villan. Hes not folding, and I dont see what he will fold.

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true that he's not folding, i dunno waht he's folding, and i really don't see what he would fold so he's probably not folding

Some9 10-28-2007 02:50 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
lolol

b/c $88 without history. With a c/r seems nice but I don't see unknown b/f too often here cause c/r in 3bet pots looks so bluffy.

ScoobyDooo 10-28-2007 03:01 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
if you crai here with some of your strong hands i think you can try to do it here to add a bit of balance...otherwise yeah just bet whatever you would with KK or something

too eazy 10-28-2007 03:04 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
i c/r ai here often cause i c/f and c/r ai with a huge range in 3bet pots cause im so nifty and cute

Paul B. 10-28-2007 03:14 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
Checking is clearly the best play, then make your decision based on how much he bets.

Also, can we please stop using terms like "balance" in spots like this? (Scooby)

willw9 10-28-2007 04:05 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
C/r seems really awkward to me. I doubt a thinking TAG would believe me at all.

RiverHebrew2 10-28-2007 04:27 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
$75 or c/rai.
C/rai would have some FE and might get you the free card if villain checks behind flop.
$75 because it looks fairly strong... if u bet more it would look like you have AK imo.

Isura 10-28-2007 04:33 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
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C/r seems really awkward to me. I doubt a thinking TAG would believe me at all.

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doesn't matter. he won't call with 33

Kwantum 10-28-2007 04:56 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
If I'm betting, it's around $85. It will discourage bluff raises more than something like $55-70 and it also leaves you with a perfect amount to shove the turn if you get called and hit.

Kwantum 10-28-2007 04:57 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
And obviously we have to bet a similar amount with our monsters too.

philipsaurus 10-28-2007 05:46 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
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Id give up right here. So drawy and such a nice flop to get it in for the villan. Hes not folding, and I dont see what he will fold.

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LOL

theplux 10-28-2007 05:50 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
id rather c/rai then b/f lol.

you guys hold QQ on CO here you call a crai?

willw9 10-28-2007 05:53 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
Thoughts on b/c?

fees 10-28-2007 06:08 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
w/out history b/f, but i fire 77-83 so i can shove turn

d2themfi 10-28-2007 06:10 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
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you guys hold QQ on CO here you call a crai?

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yes

DMoogle 10-28-2007 06:13 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
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you guys hold QQ on CO here you call a crai?

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yes

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Always.

theplux 10-28-2007 06:14 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
okie figured it was a leak.

aislephive 10-28-2007 07:17 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
Checkraise and bet/call are both aight. Bet/fold sucks btw.

homeboy604 10-28-2007 08:43 PM

Re: 400NL - Need a little help with betsizing
 
bet 75/call ai


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