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Fishhead24 10-27-2007 09:55 AM

$100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
.......and in doing so you will not support foreign oil and in the same process help the American farmer.

Meanwhile, IOWA FARMLAND continues to increase at record levels and anyone not on this gravy train over the last few years and the next couple are really, really missing a golden oppurtunity for themselves.

ItalianFX 10-27-2007 10:05 AM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
How do we switch to biofuels when 99% of cars on the road need gasoline? Do you really think people care? (serious question)

The majority of people are not energy-conscious.

ahnuld 10-27-2007 10:25 AM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
iowa farmland price chart please

Maulik 10-27-2007 11:00 AM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
Fish,

Subsidizing oil production places a great strain on the environment. The U.S. interest in maintaining sugar cane production in Florida is taxing the Everglades.

KDuff 10-27-2007 11:25 AM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
Actually a better trade than farmland probably would've been to buy exchange seats in KC or Minneapolis. MGEX seats are up 400% yoy.
MGEX historical membership prices

phiphika1453 10-27-2007 04:34 PM

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Actually a better trade than farmland probably would've been to buy exchange seats in KC or Minneapolis. MGEX seats are up 400% yoy.
MGEX historical membership prices

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Please dont bash me, but what does owning a seat give you the right to do?

octaveshift 10-27-2007 08:44 PM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
Beyond Petroleum, baby!

Big TR 10-29-2007 11:43 AM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
Sweet. I thought we were about due for an Iowa Farmland Rules!!!!!!!! post.

It had almost been a month.

bdams19 10-29-2007 12:12 PM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
iowa....sounds awesome...

jws43yale 10-29-2007 01:55 PM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
Jesus, biofuels only exist b/c the US maintains huge subsidies along with huge tariffs on foreign sugarcane and Brazilian ethanol. Biofuels are a joke of an alternative fuel source. They are majorly negative net energy when you look at all the resources necessary to create them and actually pollute more than oil.

Big TR 10-29-2007 02:11 PM

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But nothing you said makes it a bad investment at this time.

jws43yale 10-29-2007 02:24 PM

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But nothing you said makes it a bad investment at this time.

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I agree with this sentiment, but I do think that there are better investments, i.e. oil companies than ethanol. Why invest in something that could unravel with new regulations when oil companies experience identical or greater profits from the appreciation of prices.

Maulik 10-29-2007 10:08 PM

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Jesus, biofuels only exist b/c the US maintains huge subsidies along with huge tariffs on foreign sugarcane and Brazilian ethanol. Biofuels are a joke of an alternative fuel source. They are majorly negative net energy when you look at all the resources necessary to create them and actually pollute more than oil.

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Truth.

re: sugar cane subsidies in FL.
Not to mention the damage to the ecosystem.

ArturiusX 10-29-2007 11:57 PM

Re: $100 oil........$3 gas..........switch to biofuels now
 
Anyone interested in a prop bet that oil won't make it to $100 or stay above $100 for longer then a week?

kimchi 10-30-2007 12:01 AM

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Anyone interested in a prop bet that oil won't make it to $100 or stay above $100 for longer then a week?

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I'd be interested, but what is the timeframe/horizon here?

Jason Strasser (strassa2) 10-30-2007 12:22 AM

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Anyone interested in a prop bet that oil won't make it to $100 or stay above $100 for longer then a week?

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i'll bet it hits $100 and doesnt stay there a week

Maulik 10-30-2007 12:39 AM

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I'll take bets, too. My guess, well I'll see if I can get ev from you..

DcifrThs 10-30-2007 10:00 AM

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im not making any bets, but i'd be short oil if it jumped over 100.

Barron

lozen 10-30-2007 04:23 PM

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Predictions have Oil at $65 by summer

Jimbo 10-30-2007 04:33 PM

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Predictions have Oil at $65 by summer

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Let me guess, Uri Geller, Kreskin or Chris Angel?

Jimbo

ArturiusX 10-31-2007 07:00 AM

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Anyone interested in a prop bet that oil won't make it to $100 or stay above $100 for longer then a week?

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I'd be interested, but what is the timeframe/horizon here?

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The next 12 months. If it does make it above $100, it needs to stay there for longer then a week.

Maulik 10-31-2007 10:37 AM

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Are you looking for an even money bet?

Fishhead24 11-04-2007 03:10 PM

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Sweet. I thought we were about due for an Iowa Farmland Rules!!!!!!!! post.

It had almost been a month.

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Just hope a few here are cashing in on my wisdom........lord knows many posters here have saved/made me thousands by reading this forum over the years.

mtgordon 11-13-2007 11:59 AM

$90 oil........$2.50 gas..........don\'t switch to biofuels
 
Oil dropping (almost) 10% since it peaked. Sell your farmland while you still can!!!

lol Iowafarmlandaments

PS: How's the prop bet doing?

econophile 11-13-2007 11:50 PM

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How do we switch to biofuels when 99% of cars on the road need gasoline? Do you really think people care? (serious question)

The majority of people are not energy-conscious.

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actually 99% of cars on the road can run on blends of 10% ethanol and 90% gasoline

and a large and growing number of flex-fuel vehicles can run on up to 85% ethanol. some major models come as flex-fuel vehicles standard.

Jimbo 11-14-2007 12:49 AM

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How do we switch to biofuels when 99% of cars on the road need gasoline? Do you really think people care? (serious question)

The majority of people are not energy-conscious.

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actually 99% of cars on the road can run on blends of 10% ethanol and 90% gasoline

and a large and growing number of flex-fuel vehicles can run on up to 85% ethanol. some major models come as flex-fuel vehicles standard.

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Don't know about the 99% number but any car in the USA manufactured after 1982 sure can.

IIRC Henry Ford was the ethanol pioneer in the USA sometime in the 1880's.


Jimbo


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