AK 3 barrel deep stacked
 

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Seat 1: mpr07 ($729)
Seat 2: chopo71 ($424.40)
Seat 3: tamu87 ($38)
Seat 4: HERO ($704.30)
Seat 5: NocturnalshadoW ($340.20)
Seat 6: TeaM DimE ($414)
NocturnalshadoW posts the small blind of $2
TeaM DimE posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Kh Ah]
mpr07 calls $4
chopo71 folds
tamu87 calls $4
HERO raises to $22
NocturnalshadoW folds
TeaM DimE folds
mpr07 calls $18
tamu87 raises to $38, and is all in
HERO calls $16
mpr07 calls $16
*** FLOP *** [Td 5c 3d]
mpr07 checks
HERO bets $69
mpr07 calls $69
*** TURN *** [Td 5c 3d] [5s]
mpr07 checks
HERO bets $122
mpr07 calls $122
*** RIVER *** [Td 5c 3d 5s] [8h]
mpr07 has 15 seconds left to act
mpr07 bets $150
HERO raises to $475.30, and is all in

thoughts?

Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked
 

its a protected pot....

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its a protected pot....

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not protected from me

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why would you try to bluff someone off a full house or trips

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Flop bet is OK I guess but there is really no reason to stack off on river when you start with a dry side pot. check check turn river.

If you want it this bad reraise PF.

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why would you try to bluff someone off a full house or trips

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his range is a lot bigger than this

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you think hes leading river with 66 or something? i dont see it.

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you put him on???

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I don't like the flop bet at all. Just try to check it down imo. Besides, I don't mind a raise to iso the short stack.

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The flopbet is fine, the shove is nothing but terrible.

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The flopbet is fine, the shove is nothing but terrible.

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Why bet into a empty side pot w/ nothing? Sure, if he has nothing we protect equity, but if he has something we just "lost" a PB.

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The flopbet is fine, the shove is nothing but terrible.

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Why bet into a empty side pot w/ nothing? Sure, if he has nothing we protect equity, but if he has something we just "lost" a PB.

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We could probably get him to fold alot of onepair hands, at least with a secondbarrel.

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I don't like any street at all.

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The flopbet is fine, the shove is nothing but terrible.

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Why bet into a empty side pot w/ nothing? Sure, if he has nothing we protect equity, but if he has something we just "lost" a PB.

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We could probably get him to fold alot of onepair hands, at least with a secondbarrel.

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I don't like a plan where lots of things have to work A) He needs to have a weak hand B ) He also need to fold them. It kinda sucks to build a pot in a empty side pot with the plan to bluff it home on later streets.

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I don't like a plan where lots of things have to work A) He needs to have a weak hand B ) He also need to fold them. It kinda sucks to build a pot in a empty side pot with the plan to bluff it home on later streets.

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We have the best hand VERY often, and when we dont we could probably make him fold his weak hands since he should expect us to be strong when we bet into an empty sidepot.

Also, even if we get called on the flop we could still improve our hand on the turn. Its an easy bet imo.

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I don't like a plan where lots of things have to work A) He needs to have a weak hand B ) He also need to fold them. It kinda sucks to build a pot in a empty side pot with the plan to bluff it home on later streets.

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We have the best hand VERY often, and when we dont we could probably make him fold his weak hands since he should expect us to be strong when we bet into an empty sidepot.

Also, even if we get called on the flop we could still improve our hand on the turn. Its an easy bet imo.

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Hm, you are usually right so perhaps it's a bet after all. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Why not reraise pre against the shortstack? I hate your line in this hand, especially when he donks river.

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We cant reraise preflop..

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We cant reraise preflop..

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this is a good reason to raise to 20 instead of 22 if you think of it.

i think villain often has Tx and is blocking the river, but i still think you should just check it down from the flop on. then the turn bet is terrible and the river push is bad.

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Given the way villain played this hand I'm going to assume he's a big fish, and trying to run big bluffs on really fishy players is usually lighting money on fire....especially loose passive ones.

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Given the way villain played this hand I'm going to assume he's a big fish, and trying to run big bluffs on really fishy players is usually lighting money on fire....especially loose passive ones.

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Again I'm QFT here. This looks terrible in every street. You should have raised to 20 in order to reraise pf. What's the range of the passive player? Middle pocket pair prolly, so you're not making him fold.