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thac 10-26-2007 02:17 AM

I have a flush, what the hell.
 
Villain in this hand is 71/7/2.5, and I haven't seen him do anything crazy. His range I think is lower flushes, J6, J7, J8, 66, 77, 88. Do we call or fold?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $155.70
BB: $51.95
Hero (UTG): $145.30
MP: $132.40
CO: $103.45
BTN: $150.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 4 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, BB calls $7

Turn: ($22.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($22.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $22.50</font>

nuggetz87 10-26-2007 02:18 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
allin?

orange 10-26-2007 02:19 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
ai...

FishSticks 10-26-2007 02:19 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
I'd call for sure. Don't know if this is bad or something...

nutshot2 10-26-2007 02:21 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
fold? what could he have but a boat here...

Paul Thomson 10-26-2007 02:24 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
he has a full house fold! just kidding...i'd prefer bet-fold but stack sizes aren't deep enough for that. you could at least mini-raise and fold (i wouldn't) if not just push. but not raising is a sin either way.

nuggetz87 10-26-2007 02:26 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
yeah i would actually minraise and fold to his call because he only started the hand with $51

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thac 10-26-2007 02:27 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
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yeah i would actually minraise and fold to his call because he only started the hand with $51

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Paul Thomson 10-26-2007 02:29 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
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yeah i would actually minraise and fold to his call because he only started the hand with $51

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yeah...i said i wouldn't fold if i miniraised even if we were deeper, but then again i wouldn't post a hand when i had the nut flush vs a short stack...lol[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

thac 10-26-2007 02:30 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
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yeah i would actually minraise and fold to his call because he only started the hand with $51

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yeah...i said i wouldn't fold if i miniraised even if we were deeper, but then again i wouldn't post a hand when i had the nut flush vs a short stack...lol[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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Does this change if we have the 2nd nut flush and are deeper? I mean, srsly?

FishSticks 10-26-2007 02:31 AM

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fold? what could he have but a boat here...

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A straight, a jack, a worse flush, a bluff...

ikestoys 10-26-2007 02:31 AM

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I'd call for sure. Don't know if this is bad or something...

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read villain desc

Paul Thomson 10-26-2007 02:41 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
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yeah i would actually minraise and fold to his call because he only started the hand with $51

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lol [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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yeah...i said i wouldn't fold if i miniraised even if we were deeper, but then again i wouldn't post a hand when i had the nut flush vs a short stack...lol[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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Does this change if we have the 2nd nut flush and are deeper? I mean, srsly?

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ok. i guess it was a joke post at my expense. sorry, sarcasm is hard to interpret over the internet.

i guess, i'll crawl back into the whole where i came from. i hope everyone enjoys the thoughtful discussions they've been having like...omg 2nd nut flush snap call. i was just trying to help the good cause and do some retarded things like actually listing out hand ranges, figuring pot odds to call and weighting villains range based on flop texture and his actions.

nh thac

deaders 10-26-2007 02:45 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
vs this guy with his stack its really a no brainer, put him in.

Pat Southern 10-26-2007 02:46 AM

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vs this guy with his stack its really a no brainer, put him in.

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nutshot2 10-26-2007 03:07 AM

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fold? what could he have but a boat here...

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A straight, a jack, a worse flush, a bluff...

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wow i hope i get you at one of my tables, i'm gonna value bet you ALL DAY LONG BROTHER

cakewalk 10-26-2007 03:11 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
i think we have a question if BB is 100bbs....................................wait what

chris269 10-26-2007 03:51 AM

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fold? what could he have but a boat here...

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A straight, a jack, a worse flush, a bluff...

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wow i hope i get you at one of my tables, i'm gonna value bet you ALL DAY LONG BROTHER

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Yeah, because you have nutflush vs fh situations ALL DAY LONG...

nutshot2 10-26-2007 03:53 AM

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fold? what could he have but a boat here...

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A straight, a jack, a worse flush, a bluff...

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wow i hope i get you at one of my tables, i'm gonna value bet you ALL DAY LONG BROTHER

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Yeah, because you have nutflush vs fh situations ALL DAY LONG...

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i play a lot of hands yo

danicalifornia 10-26-2007 03:58 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
wow I really think you have to raise for value here. Villains calling range preflop is any 2 cards and at a draw heavy flop like this I think even a very bad player would raise a set here. He could easily be value betting a Jack a lower flush or even a busted straight draw. Not raising here is giving up a lot of value

Paul Thomson 10-26-2007 03:59 AM

Re: I have a flush, what the hell.
 
this was a joke post at my expense (i actually kind of think it's funny now)...no need to reply anymore.


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