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BlueEcho 10-25-2007 06:22 PM

My Story regarding the San Diego Fire- long
 
I know this probably doesn't belong here but I don't belong to any of the other communities on 2+2 and most of the people I know from 2+2 are here in MTTc or SMTT. If it needs to be moved I understand.

I live in a small town in the east part of San Diego County known as Ramona. Ramona is basically a horse town with most people having large parcels of land outside of main street Ramona. My home is located on a street with 12 other homes each about 1/8 to 1/4 apart and open space preserve behind my home. The street runs east to west with my home being the farthest east home and the exit being on the west end. Behind my home is about 180 acres of open space including a mountain. I hope that paints a picture of the street without being to long.

Just before 10:00am on Sunday (Oct. 21st) I was outside working on my property and noticed smoke coming from the direct east (behind the mountain). So instead of heading inside to get ready for a great day of online poker, I hiked up the mountain. It's about a 25 minute hike to get to a vantage point where the fire can be viewed and it seemed about 4 hills or 10 miles away. I met a neighbor on the way who was doing the same thing and when we got down we spread the word.

I lived through the Cedar Fire in 2003 so I've been preparing for this ever since and I went to work. Most of my property is clear to at least 300 feet around my home as well as other areas that I felt were pivotal in protecting my home. At this time I rolled the John Deere out of the garage and cut anything else down that I could get to. I began watering using my 13000 gal. tank of water. I'm out far enough where city water doesn't exist so I'm self contained on my own well water. Over the course of the next 8 hours I watered everything and everywhere.

The wind was blowing consistently from east to west at about 20-30mph for most of the day. My neighbors and I took turns hiking the mountain to keep up to date with the fire's location. Up until 2:00pm there had been no indication from authorities or anybody but we already knew what was happening anyway. About then a sheriff came up and told us we should evacuate. My wife and I had decided not to leave until in got ugly so we stayed. Rolling reverse 911 calls rang our phone at 3:00pm. Shortly there after a news crew began interviewing people on our street. When asked if we would do an interview I simply stated "No way I'm letting you make me look like one of those idiots that doesn't leave when the hurricane is coming". Even if it's true.

6:30pm

Darkness sets in and the smoke is thick above my street. The darkness makes it very difficult to get to the top of the hill to view progress but the sky is beginning to glow. My truck and the wife's car are pointing away from the house and down the street just in case. The important documents are packed and loaded along with some clothes and valuables. Even the dog has put her collar on. The watering continues as I water the areas around my home until it's just mud. I continue to wet my house inorder to keep the roof and sides damp.

8:30pm

I'm outside at this time with a mask on to filter the air but it's getting worse. Suddenly it looks really bright orange at the top of the mountain. I go inside to check on my wife and in those few seconds the wind triples in strength. It's maybe blowing about 80mph. I look out a window and watch my reflection distort as the window flexs under the force. Visibility suddenly drops to close to 20 feet. I can see the flames from time to time at the top of the hill. I grab the dog toss her in the back of my wife's car and tell my wife to go, I'll be right behind. I watch her drive off and make sure she makes it. I run around back and fire off the water system one more time for good measure. I now can't see thru the smoke and I'm forced to feel my way back around the house to my truck. I jump in and light'em up off of my drive way. From the time I saw my wife drive off, to the time I got in my truck which was about 1 minute the flames had moved 1/2 a mile. As I drove down the hill and away from my home the flames had reached it and surrounded it. Then it disappeared in the smoke.

My neighbors were running too. The neighbor in the first house on the street (about 1 mile from mine) saw me leave, he got jumped in his truck to leave at the same time. The fire covered that distance in less than a few seconds and he suffered minor burns to his arms and hands.

As far as I know everybody made it out ok. There are rumors that at least 2 of the homes on my street didn't make it, but we really don't know which. It's now Thursday and I still don't know anything other than maybe we can go back tomorrow or the next day. The fires are gone but it burned up the water company so there isn't any water for the people in town. Thus the authorities have shut out of all of us even if we are on our own well system. This is easy to do as there is only a handful of ways to enter into the town.

As I finished typing that last sentence I got a phone call from someone I know that is still in Ramona. He drove over to my house............it's still standing. The fire burned everything on my property. He said I now have 10 acres of ash, but the house is intact. It burned right up to 3 sides of the house. But I was a blessed one, the rumors were true 2 of my friends/neighbors weren't as fortunate.

Hopefully the water company will get it's act together soon and I can add pictures to this post.

I feel for everyone affected by this horrible event. That's just my story I'm sure there are countless others far worse and more tragic.

gobbomom 10-25-2007 06:30 PM

Re: My Story regarding the San Diego Fire- long
 
wow. No story I've read has been as descriptive. I had no idea at the speed of the fire. We had a house fire too, it sucked. I'm glad your story turned out ok, and wish you well in the aftermath.

BlueEcho 10-25-2007 06:36 PM

Re: My Story regarding the San Diego Fire- long
 
Thank you.

As a side note I won't be able to respond very often as I obviously don't have alot of computer access, but if anybody has any questions I'll try to answer.

BadgerPro 10-25-2007 06:44 PM

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Nice read and glad to hear you and your family was alright.

Annulus 10-25-2007 06:45 PM

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Very touching story. Im glad you are ok. I was thinking the other day if my house was to burn what are the valubles that I would save. I think materialistic things like TV's, computers don't matter, but rather important documents, pictures and sentimental things that mean the most are the things that can't be replaced. Thanks for the insider perspective and I wish you and your community a fast recovery.

MJBuddy 10-25-2007 06:54 PM

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I know the feeling man; I'm from New Orleans. I can also relate to the slight relief knowing your home is intact.

Gl with the rest of this predicament.

mflip 10-25-2007 06:57 PM

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Glad to hear you and the family are alright and your house is still intact. I can't even begin to understand how quickly that fire was moving, truly shocking. Thanks for sharing the story.

gobbomom 10-25-2007 06:58 PM

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Very touching story. Im glad you are ok. I was thinking the other day if my house was to burn what are the valubles that I would save. I think materialistic things like TV's, computers don't matter, but rather important documents, pictures and sentimental things that mean the most are the things that can't be replaced. Thanks for the insider perspective and I wish you and your community a fast recovery.

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you don't have time to save stuff. The best thing anybody should do is make a list of everything you own, or even better- walk through your house with a video camera & record it all with descriptions. You'll need this for the ins. co.

Sherman 10-25-2007 07:01 PM

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Wow. Glad you made it out Mike. Many of my students commute from the area and weren't able to make it to class all week, so I knew it was bad.

Glad to hear that you and your wife made it out safely. Best of luck in the days ahead.

Sherman

Annulus 10-25-2007 07:09 PM

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Very touching story. Im glad you are ok. I was thinking the other day if my house was to burn what are the valubles that I would save. I think materialistic things like TV's, computers don't matter, but rather important documents, pictures and sentimental things that mean the most are the things that can't be replaced. Thanks for the insider perspective and I wish you and your community a fast recovery.

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you don't have time to save stuff. The best thing anybody should do is make a list of everything you own, or even better- walk through your house with a video camera & record it all with descriptions. You'll need this for the ins. co.

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not to derail too much, but this is interesting. i think you do have some time. obv. you dont have time/resources to hire a moving company. but i would def. want to grab family photos, momentos, kids trophies etc... along with important documents.

gobbomom 10-25-2007 07:14 PM

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you'd be surprised then at how fast houses burn, and your only thoughts are to get everybody out safely. My daughter grabbed her album collection [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] while Jimmy and I just got the animals out and freaked out waiting for her. The fire absolutely ROLLS in waves and the smoke makes it very dangerous.

SammySlim 10-25-2007 07:48 PM

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Glad to hear you are safe, and your house too. Hopefully, you'll get back in soon.

We evacuated Monday night but the fire never got closer than a few miles, and were able to get back in last night. The process of "what do I take and what do I leave" is an interesting one - and one I hope none of you ever have to go through. But basically, you wind up taking (1) key papers and documents, including cash, passports, etc., (2) medicine and personal care items, (3) photos and small mementos that can't be replaced, (4) some basic bedding if you can fit it in the car, and (5) a reasonable amount of clothes. If you have kids, it's best to let them pick out the stuff that's important to them - you'd be surprised at how little they actually decide to take, but it gets them invested in the process. I spent Monday taking about 100 digital photos of our house and belongings, and we packed up the mementos etc. expecting the order to come, and when it did, were out the door pretty fast.

In the end, a house is just a building you live in; home is wherever your family is at the moment.

I will say that the whole community in San Diego really pulled together, and that the firefighters did a great job, and the authorities (and citizens) managed the evacuation and repopulation very well with very little disruption.

Good luck to the OP and thanks for posting your story - please let us know when you get back home.

Cheers

ItalianFX 10-25-2007 10:59 PM

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Glad to hear everything is as good as it can be on your end. I've been eagerly awaiting this update as I'm still in shock that you were involved. I'd be interested in seeing some pictures if you have time to throw them up.

If you need anything, if I have anything to give, don't be afraid to ask.

tedtodd 10-26-2007 12:01 AM

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Crazy story. Thanks for sharing. GL!

dmk 10-26-2007 12:11 AM

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Thanks for sharing, glad you guys had a plan and stuck to it - it makes a world of difference.

Be sure to report in when you get back home. I've personally never seen a wildfire or anything, pictures would be neat.

Do you think watering the house down is what kept it from completely burning?

Exitonly 10-26-2007 10:29 AM

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crazy story, good read.

Foucault 10-26-2007 11:49 AM

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Thanks for writing.

jonnyd 10-26-2007 11:56 AM

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this was a good read. thanks for sharing man

Merek007 10-26-2007 11:59 AM

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Until you have seen a fire move in high winds it is unbelievable... soo fast..

Hope the house is OK Good Luck and thanks for sharing.

uclabruinz 10-26-2007 12:03 PM

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Wow, what a read.

I am just down the hill in Poway. We lost 70 homes last I heard, and had two people burn to death in their home. Rancho Bernardo is to my immediate north, and last I heard they lost around 300 homes.

We never evacuated, even when our neighbors knocked and said they just got a call from the sheriff telling them to leave. I had a good feel for where the fire was and didn't feel it was necessary to leave until specifically told to do so. The maps on television kept showing us as under mandatory evacuation, though, so maybe I'm dumb for staying. Just didn't want to have to go through the ordeal of evacuation unless we had to. I did have everything packed and my truck pointed out of the driveway.

The packing process is indeed a difficult one. Also having gone through the Cedar Fire, we were relatively prepared. Sunday night when it became obvious this was another bad one, I ran around the house taking pictures of rooms and closets for insurance purposes. Monday morning I told my 10 year old daughter to pack her very important things. It was indeed a small amount of stuff. On the top was a teddy bear she inherited from her Mom, which was pretty touching.

Some acquaintances of mine lost their house, and it swept through so quickly that they were out at some kind of reunion when it happened, so they were not able to pack things up or get anything out. They had the clothes on their backs, purse and wallet, and that's about it. They also had four dogs locked in the house, but apparently someone made it up there and opened the door and they have been able to find three of them. My friend, once he heard, snuck past the barricades and made it up to his house, where this guy dropped him off and told him he would come back. He never did. So, my friend was literally running down a street with flames on both sides, when his friend found him because he had come to look for him. They hauled ass out of there and to safety. Pretty scary stuff.

It has been a really long week, and I feel very much for those who have lost their homes. It will take awhile for San Diego to feel "normal" again.

bucktotal 10-26-2007 01:57 PM

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thanks for sharing the stories.

i'll be in san diego next week friday for a conference at the convention center. i'll be there from Nov 2-10.

can anyone tell what the scene is like downtown, gas lamp district, near the convention center, etc... or what it might be like in a week.

also... whats it gonna be like to drive up the coast to pacific beach, or something like that. i've heard the smoke will be coming in... anyway. any impressions would be greatly appreciated.

all the best guys, i hope everything works out ok for those there.

uclabruinz 10-26-2007 02:02 PM

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Bucktotal, everything should be completely normal downtown and in PB.

kylephilly 10-26-2007 02:24 PM

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I can't believe the fire moves that fast, I had no idea.

Crash0veride 10-26-2007 02:35 PM

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Thanks BlueEcho and UCLAbruinz for sharing the stories. Glad to hear both are ok and families are all well.

Soulman 10-26-2007 03:39 PM

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Having just been to San Diego for a holiday (my gf and I both really loved the city), I was very sad to see what's been happening over there. Thanks for telling your stories guys, it's all the more touching to read personal accounts.

BlueEcho 10-27-2007 02:34 AM

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Thanks for sharing, glad you guys had a plan and stuck to it - it makes a world of difference.

Be sure to report in when you get back home. I've personally never seen a wildfire or anything, pictures would be neat.

Do you think watering the house down is what kept it from completely burning?

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Absolutely, there is no question the time i spent doing this saved my house I've taking pictures and as soon as I have time to download I will have them up.

I_AM_EVIL 10-27-2007 03:39 AM

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I haven't been keeping up with the news about the fire(s)

I have a few friends that live in Alpine and El Cajon that I haven't talked to for a few weeks. Did the fire reach either of those areas and if so how bad was it?

uclabruinz 10-27-2007 10:12 AM

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Alpine and El Cajon were in danger, but I think ultimately they came through okay. Not 100% sure though.

ItalianFX 10-27-2007 01:26 PM

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BlueEcho or UCLA, do you know if La Mesa was hit at all? One of my best friends who I grew up with here in Pennsylvania lives in La Mesa and I don't have his number to call him.

uclabruinz 10-27-2007 02:18 PM

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I think all of La Mesa came through fine.

shyturtle27 10-28-2007 12:55 AM

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Crazy stories, guys. Glad you all are okay. Amazing how fast those fires move. Good luck in the recovery process and God bless.


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