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sethypooh21 10-25-2007 04:32 PM

*WORLD SERIES GAME 2 THREAD: Rockies (Jimenez) @ Red Sox (Schilling)*
 
Big, big game tonight. Last night's final score doesn't matter and the potential for a Sox let down is huge. 1-1 back to Denver was Colorado's goal to begin with.

Going for the Rocks: Anything has to be better than last night AMIRITE? Schilling is getting by on guts more than stuff these days, and the meat of the Colorado lineup has to be smarting from last night, looking at you Brad Hawpe.

Going for the Sox: Lineup remains red hot. Rookie Rockie on the mound. Schilling's guts and guile still seem to go a long way. Real chance to step on their necks.

Prediction: Much closer game if Jiminez makes it through 3 inning relatively unscathed then it's a classic playoff nail biter.

Needle77 10-25-2007 04:34 PM

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The Indians will win this game.

stormstarter28 10-25-2007 04:35 PM

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Prediction: Much closer game if Jiminez makes it through 3 inning relatively unscathed then it's a classic playoff nail biter.

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First off, your prediction has an "if", which isn't much of a prediction. Second, I wouldn't count on this one being much of a nail biter. Is there any good reason to think the Sox bats will cool off against Ubaldo freakin' Jimenez?

pdiggz 10-25-2007 04:42 PM

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red sox win, 6-2. rockies looked bad in game 1, very bad, and yes it is only 1 game, but they got handled and have a rookie throwing game 2 against schil.....

MuresanForMVP 10-25-2007 04:42 PM

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In. Go Red Sox.


I hope they have another night like last night, but the Rox are liable to break out if Schilling leaves his fastball over the plate to much. Im cautiously optimistic about tonight. With Jimenez's stuff he can potentially dominate if he commands it. Either way, let's go and make it 2-0

kidcolin 10-25-2007 04:43 PM

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prediction: Jimenez leaves after 3+, 75 pitches, 5 walks, 1 HRs, 5 earned runs.

johnnylovescandy 10-25-2007 04:47 PM

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prediction: Jimenez leaves after 8+, 75 pitches, 5 K, 1 HRs, 3 earned runs.

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I have the "under" tonite, okay???

MuresanForMVP 10-25-2007 04:51 PM

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I didnt make a prediction in my post. I'm gonna say 8-5 Red Sox, with schilling going 6, and Jimenez throwing 5 giving up 4 earned, and the Rockies bullpen getting lit up

kidcolin 10-25-2007 04:52 PM

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Schilling prediction: nails

MuresanForMVP 10-25-2007 04:54 PM

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Schilling prediction: nails

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Get some

sethypooh21 10-25-2007 04:56 PM

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I wish I was as confident as you guys. I'm not picking against the sox, but this game is such an enormous "let down" scenario, that I'd be crazy to get that confident.

leehrat 10-25-2007 04:56 PM

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if he sox win this one series is over

nomadtla 10-25-2007 05:04 PM

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if he sox win this the series won't come back to Fenway

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my 2 cents

ADLinden 10-25-2007 05:09 PM

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The Indians will win this game.

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prohornblower 10-25-2007 05:36 PM

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I think the Rocks could kill Shilling, especially after seeing Beckett last night. Shilling could look like BP. But he's also Shilling, so he could be lights-out, too.

I'll say Ubaldo (sp?) pitches well, but Rox bullpen gets dinged a bit. Rockies win 8-6.

TMTTR 10-25-2007 05:38 PM

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The Indians will win this game.

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Rockies in 4.

Los Feliz Slim 10-25-2007 05:40 PM

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Red Sox 1,462,018
Rockies 2

NT! 10-25-2007 05:45 PM

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rockies got around on some beckett fastballs last night, they looked rusty but their lineup has some pop. curt euro has to be NAILS. my prediction: it'll be something like 5-3 sox going into the late innings and then the rockies will get lit up again. ship it.

wisehandpoker 10-25-2007 05:54 PM

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This amused me:

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...goryId=2521705

Nez477 10-25-2007 05:54 PM

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Jesus Christ the trolls are ridiculous in this thread

Give me a freaking break

Jimenez is a better matchup against the Sox than francis is, period. If his stuff is on, which is a big IF obviously, he will hold the sox to 4 runs in 6 innings of work

We are going to score 5-6 runs in this game I think, so our pitching has to make that stand up.... in other words it's all on Ubaldo tonight

I'd give us a 28% chance of winning, we need too many things to fall into place IMO

kidcolin 10-25-2007 05:57 PM

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I would've never guessed that's what Jim Caple sounds like. Not in a million years.

vin17 10-25-2007 05:58 PM

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Jesus Christ the trolls are ridiculous in this thread

Give me a freaking break

Jimenez is a better matchup against the Sox than francis is, period. If his stuff is on, which is a big IF obviously, he will hold the sox to 4 runs in 6 innings of work

We are going to score 5-6 runs in this game I think, so our pitching has to make that stand up.... in other words it's all on Ubaldo tonight

I'd give us a 28% chance of winning, we need too many things to fall into place IMO

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Just to clarify, you've conceded the series??


Mondogarage 10-25-2007 05:59 PM

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If Jimenez has his command (huge IF, well said, Nez)...if he has it, he can lock down. Dude throws 100mph heat with movement, *and* a sub 80 mph changeup.

If Schilling recaptures past glory, he can still dominate. If he's topping out at 90mph, the Rockies are gonna clock him.

This game can go anywhere from 2-0 to 10-8, frankly.

gehrig 10-25-2007 06:06 PM

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the sox own jiminez

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7325...p;type=Pitching

Nez477 10-25-2007 06:17 PM

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I'm not conceding [censored]. I am a realist-stat analyzing hardcore baseball junkie though and our chances, as they were coming in, aren't great.

I just want them to play good baseball.

VickreyAuction 10-25-2007 06:18 PM

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Jimenez needs to throw strikes. I like the Sox in Fenway.

Also, the Rockie offense gets an enormous boost from Coors. Tulowitski and Hawpe lose 170 points of slugging, Atkins and Helton lose 90 points, Holliday loses 250 (!) points, Matsui loses 150 points, and Tavaras loses 50 points.

Ubaldo actually has reverse splits (he's far worse on the road), but that's due to his small sample size so who knows.

Nez477 10-25-2007 06:20 PM

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the sox own jiminez

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7325...p;type=Pitching

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Ban

Pudge714 10-25-2007 06:21 PM

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Who should the Sox bench? Lowell? Ortiz? Youklis?

MuresanForMVP 10-25-2007 06:21 PM

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I'm not conceding [censored]. I am a realist-stat analyzing hardcore baseball junkie though and our chances, as they were coming in, aren't great.

I just want them to play good baseball.

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True that, you've been very realistic which is something some people should take note of. In my opinion power pitchers dominate the playoffs, maybe Jimenez has command of his stuff some small percentage of the time, but power pitchers who are wildcards like that scare me in the playoffs much moreso than a soft-tosser who put up great numbers in the regular season. I predicted 8-5 Red Sox but that could sway a whole [censored] ton considering the x-factors on both teams. Looking forward to a good game, going out to get a bottle of Jack now

sethypooh21 10-25-2007 06:25 PM

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Who should the Sox bench? Lowell? Ortiz? Youklis?

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With a righty pitching, probably Lowell, though I can see an argument for Ortiz given his knees. With a lefty pitching 100% Ortiz.

sethypooh21 10-25-2007 06:28 PM

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I'm not conceding [censored]. I am a realist-stat analyzing hardcore baseball junkie though and our chances, as they were coming in, aren't great.

I just want them to play good baseball.

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True that, you've been very realistic which is something some people should take note of. In my opinion power pitchers dominate the playoffs,

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"Special Sauce" FTW.

Mondogarage 10-25-2007 06:31 PM

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Who should the Sox bench? Lowell? Ortiz? Youklis?

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As a Rox fan, I'd say "all three".

But seriously, I think you have to bench Ortiz, and as hot as Youk has been during the post-season, you probably lose very little, bat-wise.

Do you really want Big Papi trying to field a Taveras drag bunt down the first base line? Either way, you gain a hell of a pinch hitter. Even if Youk wasn't so hot, I don't think it's a hard call to make. But with Youk as hot as he is, it's almost a no-brainer.

NT! 10-25-2007 06:36 PM

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just having power pitchers isn't the only thing that matters. yeah, they tend to dominate, but not if they walk too many guys. jimenez' K:BB is pretty pedestrian IIRC. i'm not saying he can't be effective, but i seriously doubt it.

sethypooh21 10-25-2007 06:44 PM

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NT, if the uke wrapped/spun all the way around manny's body it would be so much better, imo.

NT! 10-25-2007 06:48 PM

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it would be even better if it spun all the way around his body and he left his arms up and his dick crawled out of his pants and yawned and started playing it

MrFeelNothin 10-25-2007 06:49 PM

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Jesus Christ the trolls are ridiculous in this thread

Give me a freaking break

Jimenez is a better matchup against the Sox than francis is, period. If his stuff is on, which is a big IF obviously, he will hold the sox to 4 runs in 6 innings of work

We are going to score 5-6 runs in this game I think, so our pitching has to make that stand up.... in other words it's all on Ubaldo tonight

I'd give us a 28% chance of winning, we need too many things to fall into place IMO

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Geez, even Vegas gives the Rox a better chance than that.

durron597 10-25-2007 06:54 PM

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Who should the Sox bench? Lowell? Ortiz? Youklis?

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david ortiz should pitch

Boris 10-25-2007 06:59 PM

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I'm not conceding [censored]. I am a realist-stat analyzing hardcore baseball junkie...

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How can you make this claim when you think any team, no matter how good, with Curt Shcilling on the mound would have a .720 winning percentage against another team with a winning record?

kidcolin 10-25-2007 07:03 PM

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anyone who knows anything about baseball knows that schilling = nails.

Nez477 10-25-2007 07:04 PM

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I'm not conceding [censored]. I am a realist-stat analyzing hardcore baseball junkie...

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How can you make this claim when you think any team, no matter how good, with Curt Shcilling on the mound would have a .720 winning percentage against another team with a winning record?

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I'm also a realist? I bet BP would put the Sox around a 65%-70% favorite in this game looking at all variables...


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