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CyberMuppet 10-25-2007 06:34 AM

100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
Hi all!

First time poster, so be nice [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I've been playing poker for about a year and am trying to improve my game, so I thought I'd pick up some tips here.

Here is my first year:
These stats are not in $ but in Swedish currency, so divide by 5 (or by 6.5 if you want to be exact) to get it in $

http://www.krantzlogic.se/poker/pokergraph.jpg
http://www.krantzlogic.se/poker/pokerstats.jpg

I was just wondering if I'm running hot or if it's time to move up? I've been trying the equivalent of NL$100 lately as you can see, and not doing very well. The stakes still seem a bit large to me there.

(Obviously I'm not planning on keeping a 40/12 stat at higher levels, but down at micro it works for me)

And don't worry, not planning on doing this for a living just yet :-)

Also, should this have been posted in Micro stakes?

NNNNOOOOONAN 10-25-2007 06:35 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
do we divide the BB/100 by 6.5 too?
cause 21.07 bb/100 over 63k hands is [censored] sick.

Paul B. 10-25-2007 06:37 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
So you've made $5320? Yawn

Gonso 10-25-2007 06:41 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
Normally I'd point out your vpip being a little heavy and your pfr a little light, which appears to be catching up with you, but eh. Whatever works, if you're able to adjust as you go you'll be fine.

Kevin Browne 10-25-2007 06:43 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
yea time to move...try out 5/10.

TheHC 10-25-2007 06:45 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
[X] SvenskaSpel

xTheKidx 10-25-2007 06:48 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
lol? 33/10

EvanJC 10-25-2007 06:52 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
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lol? 33/10

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well done op [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

dersl 10-25-2007 07:10 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
No € in Sweden?

vbm 10-25-2007 07:23 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
[x] Jealousy

CyberMuppet 10-25-2007 09:04 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
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So you've made $5320? Yawn

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Yeah I know, it isn't much, but mainly playing for fun. Trying to learn more so I can move up a bit. Hopefully it will be enough to roll me for SSNL soon. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Lyric 10-25-2007 09:15 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
let's see your poker EV graph.

what is your aggression factor?

your stats are horrible. you'll be killed anywhere above $50 NL. you limp too much, you defend your blinds too much, you don't steal enough. you don't win enough pots that you enter.

i'm dumbfounded by these results. they're either doctored or you're running insanely hot.

Falc 10-25-2007 09:20 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
After seeing this I might have to get my thumb out my ass and try SvenskaSpel.

Hattifnatt 10-25-2007 09:21 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
15ptbb/100 / 6,5 = 2,3 ptbb/100, not very impressive...

Suigin406 10-25-2007 09:30 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
i'm not impressed, pretty standard stuff here

drunk.hole 10-25-2007 09:32 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
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i'm not impressed, pretty standard stuff here

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oh really? Id love to see all you haters graphs.

Enervate 10-25-2007 09:33 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
He isn't trying to impress, he is just asking should he move up?

CyberMuppet 10-25-2007 09:56 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
[ QUOTE ]
let's see your poker EV graph.

what is your aggression factor?

your stats are horrible. you'll be killed anywhere above $50 NL. you limp too much, you defend your blinds too much, you don't steal enough. you don't win enough pots that you enter.

i'm dumbfounded by these results. they're either doctored or you're running insanely hot.

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Finally, some pointers [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

First, here is the PokerEV graph:

http://www.krantzlogic.se/poker/pokerev.jpg

Second, I can assure you these stats are not doctored, as others have said, they're not very impressive. I can always send you the HH's if you'd like? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I am not retarded enough to think that the same kind of game that is working at micro is going to work at small stakes, where I hope to play more according to ABC-poker. I will obviously have to make some improvements.

I will take your suggestions into account and try to work on them. Thanks!

CyberMuppet 10-25-2007 10:00 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
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15ptbb/100 / 6,5 = 2,3 ptbb/100, not very impressive...

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Not sure if you're joking or not, but why divide the BB/100 with 6.5? The rate is still the same even if you're currency is $, £ or Laotian Kip. If I were to graph $/100, then it would be a different matter [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Still isn't that good, but anywhere between 10 and 20 is adequate right?

DaAznFella 10-25-2007 10:19 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
dude your winrate is INSANE. do you feel like you run like god or are you just dirrrrty

DaAznFella 10-25-2007 10:20 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
and what's your hourly rate?

DaAznFella 10-25-2007 10:21 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
15ptbb/100 / 6,5 = 2,3 ptbb/100, not very impressive...

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Not sure if you're joking or not, but why divide the BB/100 with 6.5? The rate is still the same even if you're currency is $, £ or Laotian Kip. If I were to graph $/100, then it would be a different matter [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Still isn't that good, but anywhere between 10 and 20 is adequate right?

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anything above zero is adequate. the BEST players at ssnl beat the game for 8-10 PTBB/100 (i think?).

ikestoys 10-25-2007 10:22 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
ooooh party, i never knew thee

CyberMuppet 10-25-2007 10:35 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
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and what's your hourly rate?

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According to PT it's 9.55 BB / h.

If you think my winrate is good, then what about this guy ? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Obviously I'm lucky sometimes, but at micro I feel I have a small advantage against the other players.

Here is my luck graph from PokerEV:
http://www.krantzlogic.se/poker/pokerluck.jpg

So basically I'm a lucky SOB [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

That was kinda what I was wondering when I posted this, can I move up or should I develop my game more at the lower limits? I can always achieve something like 25/14 at micro limits as well but I doubt it's the best way to play at that level.

sh58 10-25-2007 10:42 AM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
your winrate is insane.

wow

DaAznFella 10-25-2007 03:32 PM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
dude move up now 100k hands at that winrate = you can beat ssnl. fwiw i don't think 40/12 is bad at micro stakes.

jono 10-25-2007 03:40 PM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
WTSD/W$SD 24/57 playing a 34/10 = running hot like FIYA.

The_Taj 10-25-2007 03:41 PM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
[ ] 100k hand graph

hra146 10-25-2007 03:48 PM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
a couple of things in this thread really dont compute

LazyD 10-25-2007 03:49 PM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
Graphs are sick. how do you do comparatively at 6 max? Definitely time to move up a level or 3.

rpr 10-25-2007 03:56 PM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
This is not true. Your 100PL is 6.4 bb/100. The PT graph is in dollars, so however it is it isn't right so divide by 6.5.

I'm running at 110 bb/100 in Mexican Pesos.

EDIT - at 500NL your winrate is 0.3 bb/100, almost 1 1/2 buyins over 20K+ hands.

fsista 10-25-2007 04:00 PM

Re: 100k hand graph - Brag or Variance?
 
The last time I saw someone with Won $ WSF % that low, the poster's name was Fgators. You'll have to upper that if you wanna win higher up, but as we can see, you're clearly not retarded and should be able to kick higher levels.

Just don't care for the money and it will save you a lot of work getting there, you gonna get rich playing poker.


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