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BarryLyndon 10-24-2007 06:32 PM

5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
I lost. But, how did I play it:
Blinds 20/40
MP (4000)
Hero, CO (3000)

Only ones in hand.


MPfuckface limps, Hero with KcAc raises to 140, MPfuckface calls.

Flop: Kd 9c 3s

MP checks, Hero bets 240, MP raises to 940, Hero calls (because I don't want to blow him off a weak K this deep, but I do intend on getting it in on non Q/J turn.

Turn: 8c
MPFuckface checks, Hero bets 800, MP calls
(not really worried about much, want to lure him in.

River: 10s
MP goes all in, Hero calls.

MP shows K9.

Pwned?

EDITED: Jesus, you guys are ruthless. I don't have a handcoverter, I did it out of memory while playing, sorry!


jchauvin 10-24-2007 06:33 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
2 pair is a pretty good hand in no limit texas hold'em but on the sites i play a flush is better. was the river the 9s?

Pokerfarian 10-24-2007 06:35 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
Edit because OP was edited

Dunkman 10-24-2007 06:51 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
I'd be making it like 200 PF because of stack depth (not that it would have mattered, but still.) I also would have shoved the turn, which would have mattered just as much. I'm usually just 3bet shoving the flop here against a villain of this quality, but the board is so dry that I agree with the call. Here's the thing, if he's limp/calling with K9 in early MP, then he'll stack off with KQ-KT here, so there's not much you can do.

BarryLyndon 10-24-2007 06:53 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
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Edit because OP was edited

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Please to be answering my OPs with substance considering that, although I put a little humour and sarcasm in my responses, I give content and pretty good advice in my posts. If this question seems simple to you, then that's fine, I thought I could have played the turn differently and put some focus on deep stacks a little better. Thanks.

Barry

BarryLyndon 10-24-2007 06:54 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
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I'd be making it like 200 PF because of stack depth (not that it would have mattered, but still.) I also would have shoved the turn, which would have mattered just as much. I'm usually just 3bet shoving the flop here against a villain of this quality, but the board is so dry that I agree with the call. Here's the thing, if he's limp/calling with K9 in early MP, then he'll stack off with KQ-KT here, so there's not much you can do.

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Thanks, that's basically what I wanted to confirm.

Barry

gobucks27 10-24-2007 07:12 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
I'm 3 bet shoving the flop..he's not raising a set like this..his range is wide enough that you beat most hands..get it in now..

kenny7 10-24-2007 07:20 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
LOL,props for headline,that's quality!

I bet exactly what you did pre,exactly what you did on flop. I shove the turn though,and that would of course have mattered a lot in this situation.....

On the river I would actually suspect I was beat. Oh,don't get me wrong,I'd snapcall,but for the first time in the hand I'd be a little worried.

Meh,what can you do

helter skelter 10-24-2007 07:37 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
Not on topic, but I have to ask this because everytime I see one of your posts, I wonder if that is your real name. I saw the movie a couple years ago.

Sorry, I have no advice to give because I have been on a tremendous downswing.

BarryLyndon 10-24-2007 07:59 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
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Not on topic, but I have to ask this because everytime I see one of your posts, I wonder if that is your real name. I saw the movie a couple years ago.

Sorry, I have no advice to give because I have been on a tremendous downswing.

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No, that's not my real name, lol. Kubrick ftw.

Barry

helter skelter 10-25-2007 01:26 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
Strange choice of name. I think that is the only movie I've seen where you like the character in the 1st half and then totally despise him by the end.

Shoog 10-25-2007 01:55 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
Yeh, I'd agree with one of the posters that given the deepness of the stacks envolved in respect to these blinds your initial raise is too small or two big. The expected implied odds you are giving [censored] are pretty good if he hits two pair or flops trips or something. He can get you to stack off, especially if you hold something like AA or AK and don't improve thru the hand. I wouldn't choose the K9 to do what he did but I might cold call with 89s or 66, just to see if the flop brings something to me that would allow me a chance at your whole stack.
I hate playing the big hands online for even 4-5bb PF. I get callers and I know I'm better going in but you're up against these creeps a lot and they will hit now and then.
Guess that's where the money comes from tho,
cheers

umistboy 10-25-2007 02:05 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
I thought your pf raise was a ;ittle light once there was a caller. I definitely think we can extract more out of him when he's shown a willingness to enter the pot. I make it 180-200 but that is a tiny issue.

Flop: I agree with bet, and although I want 3-bet push (I think he's calling most of the time) I fully understand te call on such a harmless looking flop.

Turn: I definitely push here. I now want all chips in. I'm happy to take the pot now as you're already thinking about what can slow you down and he put 940 in voluntarily on the flop. I want to bet more now and that means I'm committed to the shove.

I call the turn as played. I just know when I do I've let the hand go on too long.

BarryLyndon 10-25-2007 03:04 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
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Strange choice of name. I think that is the only movie I've seen where you like the character in the 1st half and then totally despise him by the end.

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Wrong forum, but [censored] it, here we go (you started it). SPOILERS WITHIN:

I don't despise Barry in the end. That's pretty results orientated. He [censored] around on his wife, but he would have done that anywhere from when he first became a solidier anyway. He loved his son ardently, which is more than I could say for how most "Noble" fathers are protrayed in cinema.

His decision not to kill his son-n-law in the end was not only a highly sympathetic take on Barry's internal pain, but a quiet statement about "internal nobility" as opposed to postured nobility (or, to a large extent, real nobility). Barry had matured as a man to the point where he would not be so petty to take advantage of one's severe misfortune (Lord Bullington's misfire). He may have cheated his ass of to get to the top, but he had a profound respect for the duel.

I was going to go with "Redmond Barry," instead, but the name is in honor of the film more than for a character. I'm still just "Barry" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Barry

loosemmjan 10-25-2007 03:09 PM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 

Barry:

What is the buy in?

Why did you post results? Now anything we say contrary to what you did is being "results oriented"

When you got raised on the flop alarms should have sounded.
I wouldn't have put villain on K9os, but K9s is in all MPfuckface's range early on.

I think a set would have slow played the dry board.

Check the behind on the turn. Get to showdown cheap with just a pair. When villain pushes as played call. If hero had checked behind, smash the mouse and fold, It's early use your skill to get your chips back.

Call me nitty, but I'm preceding with caution after the flop re raise on a dry board. I think KQ, KJ type hand just min raise to find out where hero is at.

helter skelter 10-27-2007 11:55 AM

Re: 5: More awesome times in Barrylyndon Land
 
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Strange choice of name. I think that is the only movie I've seen where you like the character in the 1st half and then totally despise him by the end.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wrong forum, but [censored] it, here we go (you started it). SPOILERS WITHIN:

I don't despise Barry in the end. That's pretty results orientated. He [censored] around on his wife, but he would have done that anywhere from when he first became a solidier anyway. He loved his son ardently, which is more than I could say for how most "Noble" fathers are protrayed in cinema.

His decision not to kill his son-n-law in the end was not only a highly sympathetic take on Barry's internal pain, but a quiet statement about "internal nobility" as opposed to postured nobility (or, to a large extent, real nobility). Barry had matured as a man to the point where he would not be so petty to take advantage of one's severe misfortune (Lord Bullington's misfire). He may have cheated his ass of to get to the top, but he had a profound respect for the duel.

I was going to go with "Redmond Barry," instead, but the name is in honor of the film more than for a character. I'm still just "Barry" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Barry

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I guess I don't remember some of the details, so I would have to watch it again. I am not sure which duel you are talking about, but the first duel he was in, I think the gun-preparer put blanks in the guns so everyone could save face, the Lord could live, and Barry could get out of town.

As far as him sparing his son-in-law, I dont' remember that. I remember him abusing his step-son mercilessly. As I perceive it, the guy had a nice life (proabably better than 99% of the population), but was unhappy because he couldn't achieve lordship and made himself and those he lived with miserable.

Anyway, it's only a movie. Someday, I'll have to watch it again to see this "internal nobility".

I guess I just get upset when people who are very well-off (like Barry Lyndon, Phil Helmuth, Men the Master) act like jerks because of trivial setbacks.


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