Playing the flopped underfull
Table action has been very loose. I've been seeing about half the flops and playing rather passive post flop.
Hand #1295011614000477: Los Angeles 11614 Seat 1: 13ad13eat13 (135.35 in chips) Seat 3: skyki (40.00 in chips) Seat 4: HERO (111.70 in chips) Seat 5: dirtydiamond (104.60 in chips) Seat 7: 65Nickie (35.35 in chips) Seat 8: tilt away (58.00 in chips) Seat 9: Loading... (100.00 in chips) Seat 10: junglekings8 (41.35 in chips) 13ad13eat13: posts small blind $0.50 skyki: posts big blind $1 Loading...: posts big blind $1 Dealt to IMAKOOLA [ 8d Ac Tc 8s ] IMAKOOLA: calls dirtydiamond: folds 65Nickie: folds tilt away: raises to $4.50 Loading...: folds junglekings8: folds 13ad13eat13: calls skyki: folds IMAKOOLA: calls *** FLOP *** [ Js, 8c, Jd. ] 13ad13eat13: bets $15.50 HERO .....? Comments on all streets appreciated. Thanks |
Re: Playing the flopped underfull
Pre flop I like to raise; but as played looks fine.
On the flop just pot it. |
Re: Playing the flopped underfull
preflop is fine, now raise and get it in.
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Re: Playing the flopped underfull
Yeah, HU I just pot this flop. Multi-way action, I generally play this hand pretty slow...
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Re: Playing the flopped underfull
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Yeah, HU I just pot this flop. Multi-way action, I generally play this hand pretty slow... [/ QUOTE ] why wouldn't you just raise this flop even multi-way? seems like you can get enough of your stack in to deny them odds to draw. and I think you get it in enough vs Jxxx to make up for the times when you're drawing dead. this is 3-way btw. |
Re: Playing the flopped underfull
Good chance you are up against AJXX. If you pot it you may stack a AJXX depending on how aggressive he is.
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Re: Playing the flopped underfull
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[ QUOTE ] Yeah, HU I just pot this flop. Multi-way action, I generally play this hand pretty slow... [/ QUOTE ] why wouldn't you just raise this flop even multi-way? seems like you can get enough of your stack in to deny them odds to draw. and I think you get it in enough vs Jxxx to make up for the times when you're drawing dead. this is 3-way btw. [/ QUOTE ] I just personally found that it was a -EV situation for me to continue potting underfulls in multi-way action. I feel more confident that I can outplay someone in a pot much less straightforward than this one, where you are getting called by any J and are only 70/30 to win, or being snapped off by J8 where you are essentially drawing dead. |
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Pre flop I like to raise [/ QUOTE ] Why would you play this hand in the first place? You're out of position. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yeah, HU I just pot this flop. Multi-way action, I generally play this hand pretty slow... [/ QUOTE ] why wouldn't you just raise this flop even multi-way? seems like you can get enough of your stack in to deny them odds to draw. and I think you get it in enough vs Jxxx to make up for the times when you're drawing dead. this is 3-way btw. [/ QUOTE ] I just personally found that it was a -EV situation for me to continue potting underfulls in multi-way action. I feel more confident that I can outplay someone in a pot much less straightforward than this one, where you are getting called by any J and are only 70/30 to win, or being snapped off by J8 where you are essentially drawing dead. [/ QUOTE ] Have you found that the times that J8 has you effectively drawing dead outweighs the other times they have AJxx or whatever and we're 70/30? Because I love to get my money in as a 70/30 all day considering the many more marginal situations that come about. Are J's folding that often that we don't ever get our money in that good? |
Re: Playing the flopped underfull
this is a super-easy raise. first, the donk-bettor probably doesn't have jacks full, and second, the fact that you have a donk-better makes it even less likely that 3rd player has jacks full. third, in case they both have jacks, there's a good chance they have duplicate outs or someone with live outs folds fearing he's drawing dead. fourth, you have 2 good cards that he may need to fill up in your hand, so you could be in even better shape than usual.
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Re: Playing the flopped underfull
Raise it up. Few absolutes in omaha, but if some offered me the choice of never folding a flopped fh in a raised pot, I would be very tempted. Hands like this is why cash games have rebuy button, even if your wrong one-click and you are back in it.
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