10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

villain is 24/17/2 over 63 hands

something about this raise just screams bs to me

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($8.65)
BB ($13.60)
UTG ($10.90)
MP ($9.70)
Button ($18.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.90.

Flop: ($2.60) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

Well, obviously you have no fold equity after his raise. His stats seem solid, so if he plays well this shouldn't be a low PP since your 3bet made set mining -EV. My initial guess would be TT-AA for his hand. I don't see him calling with AJs unless you've 3bet him a few times already. Anyway, I fold.

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

Well the problem with this hand is if you are playing for a set 3-betting means you don't have the implied odds even if you stack him every time. Plus you are OOP so it will be hard to take down with a c-bet. There's very often going to be an overcard so getting raised sucks and I probably fold.

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

here is my thought process

villain is pretty solid, but should be raising a pretty wide range on the button. so I stand by the rr. Not getting 4 bet makes me rule out kk/aa.

I have a very aggro image. So when I bet out on a paired board like that, he may think that I very well missed the flop with a hand like AK, and try to raise me off of it. I doubt he has a j here ever, as he was pretty passive post flop and would probably slowplay given my aggressive nature

so basically, i put him on a bluff

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

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I have a very aggro image.

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Shove

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

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Not getting 4 bet makes me rule out kk/aa.

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this is not always true. many players just call 3-bets with AA,KK,QQ i think you need to fold.
you said you have an aggro image, how much have you been three betting, how many times against this guy? have you been c-betting after 3-betting?

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

i hadnt reraised at all actually. im working on opening up my 3-bet range, but for now im pretty nitty from the blinds.

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

Are you serious Sonic avatar dude about folding?


Op, fist pump and go all in

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

Haha yeah I was serious - Before I knew he had a very aggro image at the table. That sort of changes things. But still having trouble putting the villain on a range here.

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

This is a good fold unless you have a good read on villian.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

178,200 games 0.031 secs 5,748,387 games/sec

Board: 3d Jh Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.401% 54.01% 00.39% 96253 689.00 { 9c9h }
Hand 1: 45.599% 45.21% 00.39% 80569 689.00 { 66+, 44, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

your range is above villians, but not by a whole lot, and I believe its considered spew to reraise this flop. Atleast without a good read on villian that he reraises cbets on dry flops.

If you think hes stealing then id call and and evaluate on the turn and lead on a good card and fold to raise.

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

You can't call this flop bet and fold the turn given the stack sizes, I assume you mean that is a possibilty by saying 'evaluate'

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

OP when you make posts please include all important information. For example, I think I would fold the flop with the information you originally gave. Then you say you have been very aggro which changes everything. Table dynamics are very important. If you have been very aggro chances are someone has noticed and this could easily be a lower pp figuring you for bs.

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

Wow I need glasses. I thought OP had J9. Ok sorry for insulting sonic dude.

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

The more I think about it though, even given your image it is a fold. It is a 3 bet pot, why cant this guy easily have 1010, QQ, KK, AA, or AJ? I think I fold here barring a read that he could do this with less. Oh and one more thing, I am sitting here talking about table dynamics but do villains at this level even pay attention to that honestly? My guess is no which would make this more of a fold.

Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot
 

i think its time for results

Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $7.40, and is all in
Villain calls $1.40
Hero shows [9h 9s]
villain shows [Ah 6h]
*** TURN *** [3d Jh Jc] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [3d Jh Jc Th] [6d]
Hero shows two pair, Jacks and Nines
Villain shows two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Hero wins the pot ($16.40) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.40 | Rake $1
Board: [3d Jh Jc Th 6d]
Seat 1: Hero(small blind) showed [9h 9s] and won ($16.40) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 2: Chapo Chapo (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: ChessExpress is sitting out
Seat 4: smkstk didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: xDBECKERx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Villain(button) showed [Ah 6h] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sixes