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JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
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Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter BB: $280.70 UTG: $345.20 MP: $306.40 CO: $156.30 BTN: $415 Hero (SB): $443 Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB) 4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $24</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $72</font>, BB calls $48 Flop: ($144) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $144</font>, Hero folds Results: $144 Pot ($3 Rake) BB mucked and WON $141 (+$69 NET) didnt have stats up yet his names gamblerj, seems to be splashing around a bit, we have no history but he seems like one of those sticky players likes to peel etc. |
Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
NH
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Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
Seems okay.
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Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
horrible, horrible, horrible fold.
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Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
cool, i have a little better read now. he's cc'ed behind then called a squeeze twice now folding flop both times when squeezer shoves so i'm upgrading his donkyness.
does this information change anything like, you would be more inclined to shove the flop? |
Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
because he pots it when i check, because he just called the psthreebet or because i most likely have a decent amount of equity?
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horrible, horrible, horrible fold. [/ QUOTE ] Why Xorbie? You prob have like 33% equity vs his range...(I peeled this number off the top of my head) |
Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
a min rr/call could mean he could have any 2 cards here.
i really dont like the c/f on flop. |
Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
sticky players... likes to peel... he has KK/AK/99-JJ here himself a healthy amount, theres basically no way that shoving or crai is worse than a fold. this guy is def going to be bluffing at least 10% of the time when you check.
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Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
uhm, do i miss sth?
we are up against an unknown w/ 2/3 stack and there is only potsize behind, so how can this be c/f? |
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Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
So I did some poker stove analysis
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 39,600 games 0.016 secs 2,475,000 games/sec Board: Ad 6d Qd Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 42.909% 42.11% 00.80% 16677 315.00 { JdJs } Hand 1: 57.091% 56.30% 00.80% 22293 315.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ } --- 44,550 games 0.005 secs 8,910,000 games/sec Board: Ad 6d Qd Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 44.938% 44.20% 00.74% 19690 330.00 { JdJs } Hand 1: 55.062% 54.32% 00.74% 24200 330.00 { TT+, AQs+, KQs, JTs, AQo+ } --- 68,310 games 0.406 secs 168,251 games/sec Board: Ad 6d Qd Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 48.359% 47.84% 00.52% 32677 357.00 { JdJs } Hand 1: 51.641% 51.12% 00.52% 34919 357.00 { 99+, ATs+, KQs, JTs, ATo+ } --- With a tight range we have like 40% equity and with a lose range we have like 50% equity. Given this I guess check shoving is best? |
Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
why dont u just shove the flop?
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Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
oops i mean bet/call the flop, i thought he was a little shorter
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yeah dude i think im CRAI here
esp after seeing that pstove analysis |
Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
hmm, why is a c/r favored to bet/calling? I mean presumably we fold out a few hands better than ours by betting right?
I guess it would depend on how aggrssive the villain is and how loosely we assume he is calling the 4bet, so like if 88 is in his rang then c/r is better. anybody care to explain? |
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yeah i like CR bc you get more value from air, based on his pf min raise / call combo i would guess that makes up a big part of his range here
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Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves
Yeah at first i was thinking c/fold was the play to make, but this is a good analysis and you've convinced me crai is the best play too [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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yeah i like CR bc you get more value from air, based on his pf min raise / call combo i would guess that makes up a big part of his range here [/ QUOTE ] |
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