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Villain is a 35/25/2 LAG but some hands might be from HU/SH so i dont know. I do think that he plays well however and he thinks I also play well(lol). I have no notes on him.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero

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postflop reads are critical here
not sure what else I can say

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nina, for future reference i'd advice filtering your hud to display separate stats depending on if games are 2-3 handed or 4-6 handed.

as for the hand, like yourface said, it is really dependent on postflop reads. is he the lag that c/r's the flop with any pair usually? if so I'd probably just head to SD. Since I've been playing online again I have noticed that decent players are waiting to put action in on the turn more than I remembered.

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Call OTR, lose, now you have notes.

alternately

Call OTR, win, now you have notes.

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Call OTR, lose, now you have notes.

alternately

Call OTR, win, now you have notes.

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Or, if you are me, Call OTR, see you got rivered by 98. Now you need a new mouse.

I call down here, because [censored] him, that's why.

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Call OTR, lose, now you have notes.

alternately

Call OTR, win, now you have notes.

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Or, if you are me, Call OTR, see you got rivered by 98. Now you need a new mouse.

I call down here, because [censored] him, that's why.

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lol river costs you 3bb now

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I think this is a tossup between calling down and folding. Every time I lean one way or the other I can find some counter reason.

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call it down, you have a pair

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nina, for future reference i'd advice filtering your hud to display separate stats depending on if games are 2-3 handed or 4-6 handed.


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QFT

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gosh i think it's a lot closer to folding than calling.

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yeah, folding isn't all bad.
If he's pushing you off with his QdJd draw or something then sobeit and perhaps you can induce a bluff from him in the future.
It's not exactly a huge pot anyway.
Pot is right now at 5BB's and you're going to have to call 2 BB's to get to showdown. Are your 7's really going to be good often enough to justify calling 2 more bets?

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I am never ever folding here.

Look at the flop please. A good player knows he wont fold a lot of Nina's hands on that low flop so he just might call his fd

Look at the turn please. The K puts up a million straight draws and a K turn is the perfect card to bluff.


If I suspect hero is just a little bit "foldy" I will pop this turn with my entire range. I will certainly pop it with any picked up draw or fd.


Stop folding!

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Villain is a 35/25/2 LAG

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call it down, you have a pair

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You raise from UTG+1, so if he's a good player he must know you have at least a pair or an ace+GS 95% of the time. He's not bluffing imo, but he can semi bluf with QJ or a FD.

I don't know if you must call down, but call down with AJ is better than call down with 77, because he has not 4x.

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So, I called it. River J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] He bets. Can i fold now plz?

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put him on a range of hands
see if you beat enough of those hands to call the river

mess around with his hand range to see what assumptions you need to make about his turn play for a call to be correct or incorrect

what if the river was a deuce? a diamond?


this is the kind of process I go through when analyzing a hand, and it gives you a much better answer than asking on a forum.

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So, I called it. River J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] He bets. Can i fold now plz?

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So a loose aggressive guy calls in the BB and peels the flop. You can probably throw away suited connectors, Ts and small pp. He probably would have check-raised Ts or small pp between the T and 4 (he might just call with though.) He probably isn't going to peel with 2 random cards less than T, or something like Q7s. That leaves A high, backdoor straight and overcard peels. These are hands like KJo, QJ, Q9, and J9o. So, now you beat A high, the occasional loose peel and maybe something like 55. I think it's close and when it's close against a guy like this I tend to call.

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Nina what are you thinking when you bet this turn. Start with the flop bet and don't just say "well i c-bet" say what the other guys do and what that means.

Then do the same for the turn.

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nina, for future reference i'd advice filtering your hud to display separate stats depending on if games are 2-3 handed or 4-6 handed.


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QFT

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How do you do it?

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Nina what are you thinking when you bet this turn. Start with the flop bet and don't just say "well i c-bet" say what the other guys do and what that means.

Then do the same for the turn.

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My thoughts are as follows


Preflop: ZOMG a pair I raise

Flop: Nice flop, lets go to value town

Turn: BB checks. Me: Well, maybe they won't do it this time, I bet. BB raises. Me: lol.

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c'mon you know that post doesn't help

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As heis pointed out, if you bet this turn, you are pretty much committed to seeing SD for 3bb against this villain.

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I am never ever folding here.

Look at the flop please. A good player knows he wont fold a lot of Nina's hands on that low flop so he just might call his fd

Look at the turn please. The K puts up a million straight draws and a K turn is the perfect card to bluff.


If I suspect hero is just a little bit "foldy" I will pop this turn with my entire range. I will certainly pop it with any picked up draw or fd.


Stop folding!

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Doing some simple math, it is a tossup between calling down and folding if the opponent has:
King: 60%
Draw: 30%
Set: 10%
Junk: 0%

If you put any less percentage of a King then it becomes an easy call. Assuming the villain is truly a 2 aggressiveness, I think these numbers are way too high. Thus, it appears to be an easy call.

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As heis pointed out, if you bet this turn, you are pretty much committed to seeing SD for 3bb against this villain.

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wow really?

nina plays fairly tight preflop. 77 is like the worst hand in her range at the turn bet and she won't always bet it. are you bluffing her often enough on that turn card that she has to call down 77? doubt it.

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I'm *probably* not bluffing often enough for calling down to be correct, but I'm not a 35/25/2 lag either.

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As heis pointed out, if you bet this turn, you are pretty much committed to seeing SD for 3bb against this villain.

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wow really?

nina plays fairly tight preflop. 77 is like the worst hand in her range at the turn bet and she won't always bet it. are you bluffing her often enough on that turn card that she has to call down 77? doubt it.

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What about calling the turn and the reevaluating on the river? Is this play overused though? I think the river card is one of the worst.

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Villain is a 35/25/2 LAG but some hands might be from HU/SH so i dont know. I do think that he plays well however and he thinks I also play well(lol). I have no notes on him.


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Filter your stats and get better reads. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'd usually fold here nowadays. I've started folding a bit more and am generally liking it.

Rob