5/10 look him up?
 

No IQ poker 5.00/10.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button <font color="#C00000">Button ($1000.00)</font>
SB ($1867.78)
BB <font color="#C00000">BB ($1009.00)</font>
UTG ($1257.36)

Hero is button with T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Preflop: , 1 fold, Button raises to 35.00, 1 fold, BB calls 25.00.

Flop (75.00) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, Button bets 60.00, BB calls 60.00.

Turn (195.00) T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB checks, Button bets 155.00, BB calls 155.00.

River (505.00) A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB bets 350.00 Hero?


The villain here is 19/16/5 over 2.5k datamined hands, have no history though

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i think this is a straightout valuebet.

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Looks like a really easy fold. Flush's, aces, boats are all possible, and I just don't see what hand he's calling with on two streets here that he suddenly decides to turn into a bluff (which is all you beat).

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blah yeah i'd fold

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I think it's a clear fold too, if you call you're hoping he has exactly 65. His line makes sense for a lot of hands that beat you, and I can't see why he would turn a pair hand into a bluff when the river could easily have hit you

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his line makes sense for what hands that beat me

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i'd look him up here once every so often. he could easily have 8's here nah mean?

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Looks like a really easy fold.

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his line makes sense for what hands that beat me

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flushes so often

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i'd look him up here once every so often. he could easily have 8's here nah mean?

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umm no

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his line makes sense for what hands that beat me

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I don't think his line makes much sense for many hands you beat

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his line makes sense for what hands that beat me

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flushes so often

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you really think a guy this aggro check calls twice with a naked flush draw ?

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I can't really put him on a hand here but the fact that the FD and A came in make it somewhat liekly you ahve a hand you can call with, so he won't be bluffing that often. Also his line makes no sense so he won't be bluffing. maybe A7.

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snapcall plz ty.

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other than 5-6 I have no idea what you beat, enless this guy is completely and uterly retarded

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he has a medium pair everytime unless he misclicked on one of the previous streets

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i'd look him up here once every so often. he could easily have 8's here nah mean?

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umm no

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Actually he is right, villain could definitely have a medium pair turned into a bluff, and if we called and won that's what I expect him to have. I would still fold, though.

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Can villain fold? Shove is pretty hawt

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Can villain fold? Shove is pretty hawt

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What are you trying to get him to fold?

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he has a medium pair everytime unless he misclicked on one of the previous streets

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well that would make sense given his check calls, but do you not think a river lead with a medium pair here would be so utterly stupid that it makes the hand extremely unlikely?

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clearly not since all the advice is to fold, because AK = Q10 here..

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Just seems to me to be a pretty crazy way to turn a hand into a bluff

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I agree that this line is really strange, but I think it is an oddly played 45 or A7s quite often. I probably talk myself into a call, though, TBH, as there are only a few combos of value-betting hands that make sense.

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Can villain fold? Shove is pretty hawt

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What are you trying to get him to fold?

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A flush, Trips, AT, A7

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his line makes sense for what hands that beat me

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flushes so often

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you really think a guy this aggro check calls twice with a naked flush draw ?

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suprisingly often I think

trying to "mix up" their play w/ top pair etc.

also, board is paired

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Actually he is right, villain could definitely have a medium pair turned into a bluff, and if we called and won that's what I expect him to have

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i think a huge part of villain's range if we're ahead is 56 that figures it can make a plus EV call oop because he can rep the flush if it comes.

and yeah, i think this is a call because his line makes no sense for a flush and i think even if it's -EV to call (which I don't think it is) it's superimportant to know who plays flush draws that poorly so you can make thinner value bets on future turns against villain to charge him for draws and be able to own him in general

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Can villain fold? Shove is pretty hawt

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What are you trying to get him to fold?

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A flush, Trips, AT, A7

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The only reasonable 4 is 45, floating flop with AT is unlikely, its already been discussed that there aren't any reasonable flushes.

I think most of the hands that we fold with a shove, we beat anyway.

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Actually he is right, villain could definitely have a medium pair turned into a bluff, and if we called and won that's what I expect him to have

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i think a huge part of villain's range if we're ahead is 56 that figures it can make a plus EV call oop because he can rep the flush if it comes.

and yeah, i think this is a call because his line makes no sense for a flush and i think even if it's -EV to call (which I don't think it is) it's superimportant to know who plays flush draws that poorly so you can make thinner value bets on future turns against villain to charge him for draws and be able to own him in general

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I don't know villain, but OP said he was 19/16. Not sure if he would defend his BB with a small suited connector, or if he would 3bet it as opposed to calling. If 56 is in his range then so are things like 67, 78, etc. I'm not sure how likely this player is either to turn a made hand into a bluff, though.

I'm starting to think a call is alright as well, but it's really thin and without much of a read I would fold.

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Can villain fold? Shove is pretty hawt

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What are you trying to get him to fold?

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A flush, Trips, AT, A7

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Nobody folds a flush here, 60% of his stack is already in.

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777 will play like this. a7 will play like this. a4 will play like this. ace ten could play like this.

Looks to me like he is either hoping the ace helped your hand, therefore making it more likely you will call OR the ace helped his. If he has a flush, I'll be pissed.

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I don't know villain, but OP said he was 19/16. Not sure if he would defend his BB with a small suited connector

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didn't see this in OP, hidden at bottom. still a call though T/IMO

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definately feels like a flush. it usually doesnt make sense to me but they usually have it.

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his line makes sense for what hands that beat me

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TT-AA, AT.

Yeah, its possible you got him beat, but unlikely. QT OOP blows.

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hero is not oop

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results for the curious?

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I called pretty fast and he had 88

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nice

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Also his line makes no sense so he won't be bluffing

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this is usually a good reason to CALL.

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I've yet to learn this lesson.