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mrpotto 10-22-2007 04:20 PM

Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
I hosted a home poker tourney last Friday night. There were 18 players buying in for $25 each (I know we're ballas!) for a total of $450. The players were mostly "league" members. We formed a low-key league around 6 months ago as a way to get in some poker once or twice a month. Top 4 were to be paid. When it gets down to the top 4, the league manager goes over to his league folder to get the cash for the money presentation. It's at this point that he discovered it was missing. A side game had broken out and allegedly some of these players needed to make change and went into the folder to do that. My neighbor a reputable guy was the last to see it about 30-45 minutes before it was discovered missing. We turn my basement upside down and can't find it any where. It's at this point the amateur detectives begin throwing out theories. Here's what we came up with.

1- A friend of one of my friend's sisters has been playing with us for over a year. What I'm about to say next is major stereo typing but..... she's younger (25ish) and is probably the only one that $450 would make a difference to. She has a diamond nose chip and a bunch of ink. She's also hot but that's irrelevant. Sorry no pics! She has allegedly a shady past. Kelly was seen hovering near where the folder was placed. She also left about 10 minutes before the money was first discovered missing. The rest of the crew including myself are in our early 40s with above average paying jobs so the money isn't overly important to us. With the exception of....

2- My friend Dave who I've began to hang out with about a year ago. He has 2 kids that play with my kids (ages 8-10) and he's not much of a poker player. He made a big stink about needing to play really low stakes. He is also about to lose his job and his future is up in the air as he hasn't locked down another job yet. He also seemed to be the most vocal about blaming Kelly (#1 above). This may be a case of he who smelt it, dealt it. He who supplied it, denied it, etc. etc.

#3) Accidentally thrown out. Unlikely as one of my neighbors was one of the last to see the money as he made change from the cash during the side game about 30-45 minutes before we discovered it missing.

#4) The field. The final 4-5 from the main game have iron clad alibis (includes myself as I finished 4th - and as it turns out I'm glad I didn't go further!). There was only one other guy I didn't know and he seemed to be in the same demographic as the rest of us (has enough $$$ to not need to worry about vicking $450). My reputable neighbor who was the last to see the money, was seen making a clear announcement when he went into the folder to get change. “I’m taking out a ten, a five and 5 ones. I’m putting a twenty back in the folder. I’m putting the folder back.”

#5) Some kids including my own were down in the basement. This isn't very plausable since the oldest, my son is only 11 and knows better. Dave (#2) above made mention of the fact that there were kids in the vicinity. The next morning I half kiddingly mention the missing money to my son. Using my adept poker skills to see into his soul, I conclude rather quickly he had nothing to do with it. Now if I see $450 worth of candy bar wrappers in the den.................

So it was a major bummer and thankfully the winner was very good natured about being ripped out of ~ $200. It has thrown a shadow of doubt over the league and we now feel compelled to take safeguards in protecting the cash which is unfortunate. So to recap:

Brag: I finished ITM at a home tourney
Beat: No money presentation
Variance: Main suspect is hot

canis582 10-22-2007 04:27 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Bukakke the tattoo girl.

JSmith2007 10-22-2007 04:29 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Variance: Main suspect is hot


Dave is hot?

From ur explanations, Dave has to be the #1 suspect. If he's got 2 kids and no job future/no job at all, you'd be amazed what people would do with cash in front of them and food needed on the table.

AbreuTime 10-22-2007 04:32 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Do you display the prize money on the final table? Can you elaborate on the "money presentation?"

mrpotto 10-22-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
No Dave isn't hot and I'm going back and forth between Dave and Kelly as the primary suspect. Dave borrowed a $2 umbrella from me a few days ago and he went out of his way to return it to us. He lives about 10 minutes away so he went out of his way a bit to return it. Could this small display of honesty be conceived to paint himself in a different light?

LeezZard 10-22-2007 04:37 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Is it really that far fetched to just put the money in the pocket of a trusted player?

That way, if it comes up missing, you know who lost it, and it's always there.

Leaving the money across the room in a folder seems dumb anyways.

JSmith2007 10-22-2007 04:38 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
I think regardless of what he returned/'went out of his way' to give back doesn't mean he didn't take it. All I know is my brother was in the same situation (very similar) to what you mentioned to Dave and I talked to him many times a day, I'm 110% sure that if he had $500 in front of him, he'd take it, so meh.

mrpotto 10-22-2007 04:39 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
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Do you display the prize money on the final table? Can you elaborate on the "money presentation?"

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Nothing elaborate. Usually when the last bubbler gets bounced, someone tosses the money on the table. My reputable neighbor said he thought he should move the money over near the final table but got sidetracked before he did.

gimmetheloot 10-22-2007 04:40 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
[ QUOTE ]
Is it really that far fetched to just put the money in the pocket of a trusted player?

That way, if it comes up missing, you know who lost it, and it's always there.

Leaving the money across the room in a folder seems dumb anyways.

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mrpotto 10-22-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
[ QUOTE ]
Is it really that far fetched to just put the money in the pocket of a trusted player?

That way, if it comes up missing, you know who lost it, and it's always there.

Leaving the money across the room in a folder seems dumb anyways.

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Monday morning QB is always easy. Of course it seems dumb now. The thought that anyone would/could do this has never even remotely crossed anyones mind.

Eder 10-22-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
How the hell does Dave have no job prospects in today's economy?

mrpotto 10-22-2007 05:32 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
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How the hell does Dave have no job prospects in today's economy?

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He's in pharmaceutical training. He does have a few irons in the fire.

eurythmech 10-22-2007 05:32 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
It's always the reputable one.

DonkeyKing 10-22-2007 05:38 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Blame the terrorists and demand war on them. GWB will then fund your organization and your cause

PAUL-IN 10-22-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
hell, maybe you're the culprit. making a stink about it and all.

mrpotto 10-22-2007 05:45 PM

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hell, maybe you're the culprit. making a stink about it and all.

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I considered that momentarily. I did mention that I was at the final table when someone announced the money was missing. Hadn't moved from my seat in over an hour. I did e-mail a couple buddies jokingly accusing them. Something like, "Dude, just return the money to me and I'll tell everyone I found it under the treadmill after I looked there for the 9th time. This doesn't have to be painful for anyone and noone will be the wiser"

kiddcheckers 10-22-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Just a suggestion, but we always keep the money in the chip case, latched close. Which is always right next to the table where we're playing. Anybody going into it has to pop the latches and lug the thing open. Very easy to see who's screwing with it.


Pics of chick so I can read her soul plz.

apefish 10-22-2007 05:55 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
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Bukakke the tattoo girl.

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It is very rare a thread is won on the first reply.
Well done.

runout_mick 10-22-2007 09:20 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Do you have a list of names for all those registered?

If so, look for the name "Scott Tom".

Case closed.

badatmath 10-22-2007 10:24 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
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This may be a case of he who smelt it, dealt it. He who supplied it, denied it, etc. etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wait, you didn't say anything about farting.

CCx 10-22-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Professor Plum in the Conservatory with the lead pipe... or the hot young [censored].

Shaqizzle 10-22-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
It was the Butler who did it with the Wrench.

ebepse 10-22-2007 10:39 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
was this moved from home poker?

the replies dont look bbv

thres not a single tldr yet

Kiddmother 10-22-2007 10:39 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
Oh man, this kind of crap PISSES me off. . . . I had a babysitter clearly steal from my kids' piggy banks years ago. She had locked the kids out of the house, had an extra $60.00 the next day and her mom STILL said there was no way it was her and I must have been mistaken! Imsakidd was saving up for a new train probably and had JUST counted his money right before the babysitter came over. Good luck with the recovery or trusting any of these guys in the future. My opinion is that the guilt will come out in odd behavior and right now I'm leaning towards Dave as the guilty one since he is doing the most talking.

imabigdeal 10-22-2007 10:44 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
i would bet on dave

herro_radies 10-22-2007 10:50 PM

Re: Beat: $$$$ stolen from home tourny - analysis inside
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bukakke the tattoo girl.

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while blowing some of her newly acquired 8-ball.


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