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he was on espn complaining that they have too much influence on the outcome of games. thoughts?

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Thought: Skip Bayless is a hired moron to mimic the more idiotic possible stance on any subject to give ESPN something to fill otherwise dead air.

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Skip Bayless sucks worse than everyone on ESPN with the possible exception of Jay Mariotti, and his opinion on this is not groundbreaking or interesting.

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he was on espn complaining that they have too much influence on the outcome of games. thoughts?

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I'd rather listen to his brother flamboyantly over-pronounce the names of Mexican dishes/ingredients.

In fact, I'd rather listen to his brother's thoughts on sports.

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Skip Bayless once argued that field goals should be removed from organized football. He is an idiot.

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the argument that place kicking should be removed from pro football i think is a very interesting one. personally i like the game the way it is. if you can rag on kickers for being some of the most important guys on the field with the least athletic ability you can rag on QBs for the same reason.

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Why has nobody started fireskipbayless.com?

The guy is a class A moron. It isn't an act. He actually believes all these BS argument.

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hold on, he wants to get rid of kickers? Seriously, if that happens we might as well change the name to Throwball.

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Skip Bayless once argued that Jerry Rice never did anything remarkable. He is a [censored] idiot.

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hold on, he wants to get rid of kickers? Seriously, if that happens we might as well change the name to Throwball.

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I don't think he wants to actually get rid of kickers. Just get rid of the position and make a regular guy kick the ball.

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hold on, he wants to get rid of kickers? Seriously, if that happens we might as well change the name to Throwball.

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yeah his argument is that back in the day actual football players used to do the placekicking, and somewhere along the way (i forget the specific players), it turned into a skill thing with kicking specialists handling the work. If the NFL had gotten rid of placekicking back in the 70s the game would be football in a more pure form. you would have to go for 2 every time or go for it/punt on 4th.

Certain parts of his argument I agree with. For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever. But without field goals the game would get waay too one dimensional.

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i can't stand skip bayless. 4 years after the buckeyes beat miami he was still ripping on them. he went so far as to accuse will allen of the giants of taunting willis mcgahee after he made the tackle that injured his knee. utter nonsense. allen should have sued him.

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Curious if Skip hates the forward pass as well.

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the argument that place kicking should be removed from pro football i think is a very interesting one. personally i like the game the way it is. if you can rag on kickers for being some of the most important guys on the field with the least athletic ability you can rag on QBs for the same reason.

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it's interesting but i think it lacks merit. his argument is basically that the game shouldn't come down to a single play, when the fact of the matter is that most football games do. numerous analysts, coaches, players (some good, some bad) have said that a football game is essentially decided in a handful of plays. most nfl teams have approximately the same level of talent, so it makes sense that a game would be decided by a few big plays. sometimes it's a 58 yd fg, sometimes it's 90 yd int return.


can we not flood this w/ "skip bayless is an idiot" posts. we all know he likes to make outrageous assertions.


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hold on, he wants to get rid of kickers? Seriously, if that happens we might as well change the name to Throwball.

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yeah he does

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hold on, he wants to get rid of kickers? Seriously, if that happens we might as well change the name to Throwball.

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I don't think he wants to actually get rid of kickers. Just get rid of the position and make a regular guy kick the ball.

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Certain parts of his argument I agree with. For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever. But without field goals the game would get waay too one dimensional.

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Certain parts of his argument I agree with. For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever.

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Yeah, hard to debate that. What's the extra point success rate, around 98%? So stupid. Not that I have a better idea, but maybe make them get it into the end zone again from the two yard line. Something that's not incredibly boring and repetitive.

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For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever.

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NFL Blitz got this right. If you chose not to go for two, then it would give you the extra point automatically.

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Certain parts of his argument I agree with. For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever.

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Yeah, hard to debate that. What's the extra point success rate, around 98%? So stupid. Not that I have a better idea, but maybe make them get it into the end zone again from the two yard line. Something that's not incredibly boring and repetitive.

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or just move it back to a 40 yarder or something. that of course puts more importance on kickers. good ones will stand out more than bad ones.

it's like what they should do with penalty shots in a futbol shootout. move it back to where the goalie has a reasonable chance and doesn't have to guess.

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or just move it back to a 40 yarder or something. that of course puts more importance on kickers. good ones will stand out more than bad ones.

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That's fine. I'd like to see the success rate in the 60-80% range. Make it matter. Also, more missed extra points means that 7 and 0 aren't such powerful squares in football pools.

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For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever.

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NFL Blitz got this right. If you chose not to go for two, then it would give you the extra point automatically.

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One time in Blitz for N64 I elected to take the extra point, but it said I missed it in big red letters. I swear to god this happened

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For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever.

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NFL Blitz got this right. If you chose not to go for two, then it would give you the extra point automatically.

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One time in Blitz for N64 I elected to take the extra point, but it said I missed it in big red letters. I swear to god this happened

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Ban for lying. Also anyone whoever took the XP is a giant nit. I remember I played a friend and all game long we were going for 2. He scored the final TD and kicked the XP what a pos.

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hold on, he wants to get rid of kickers? Seriously, if that happens we might as well change the name to Throwball.

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I don't think he wants to actually get rid of kickers. Just get rid of the position and make a regular guy kick the ball.

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So there would be kickers as they are now, but they'd be officially labeled P instad of K. Nice solution.

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or just move it back to a 40 yarder or something. that of course puts more importance on kickers. good ones will stand out more than bad ones.

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That's fine. I'd like to see the success rate in the 60-80% range. Make it matter. Also, more missed extra points means that 7 and 0 aren't such powerful squares in football pools.

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Or go back to the drop kick like Flutie did a couple years back. That would be awesome. Maybe limit it to QBs only.

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For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever.

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NFL Blitz got this right. If you chose not to go for two, then it would give you the extra point automatically.

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One time in Blitz for N64 I elected to take the extra point, but it said I missed it in big red letters. I swear to god this happened

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Ban for lying. Also anyone whoever took the XP is a giant nit. I remember I played a friend and all game long we were going for 2. He scored the final TD and kicked the XP what a pos.

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Im absolutely not lying. my friend and I stared at the screen with a "wtf?" look on our both our faces for a couple seconds

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For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever.

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NFL Blitz got this right. If you chose not to go for two, then it would give you the extra point automatically.

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One time in Blitz for N64 I elected to take the extra point, but it said I missed it in big red letters. I swear to god this happened

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i swear this happened to me once too and no one ever believed me

i almost convinced myself that i imagined it til this post

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Blitz

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There are no timeouts, but the clock stops after every play, and extra points after touchdowns are claimed to be automatic, unless it is chosen to go for two points. However, although rare, choosing an automatic extra point can sometimes result in the extra point being missed.

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For one the extra point in the NFL is the single biggest waste of meaningless time ever.

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NFL Blitz got this right. If you chose not to go for two, then it would give you the extra point automatically.

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One time in Blitz for N64 I elected to take the extra point, but it said I missed it in big red letters. I swear to god this happened

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i swear this happened to me once too and no one ever believed me

i almost convinced myself that i imagined it til this post

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No worries, brother. You and I know the truth

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One time in Blitz for N64 I elected to take the extra point, but it said I missed it in big red letters. I swear to god this happened

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You are not alone, also happened to me

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In Madden 08 I always go for 2 except in obvious situations where the EP wins me the game or puts me up by 4 or something. So, essentially, I always go for 2 after early game scores.

My success rate is > 50 % thus that = +EV.

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Thought: Skip Bayless is a hired moron to mimic the more idiotic possible stance on any subject to give ESPN something to fill otherwise dead air.

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This is correct.

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This is correct.

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But dead air isn't that far behind in the polls compared to Skip Bayless.

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I'm not even gonna dignify this thread/Skip Bayless with a response.

D'oh!!!

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or just move it back to a 40 yarder or something. that of course puts more importance on kickers. good ones will stand out more than bad ones.

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That's fine. I'd like to see the success rate in the 60-80% range. Make it matter. Also, more missed extra points means that 7 and 0 aren't such powerful squares in football pools.

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Or go back to the drop kick like Flutie did a couple years back. That would be awesome. Maybe limit it to QBs only.

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Maybe they should make the person who scores the TD kick the extra point.

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Heard on Scott Ferrell's Sirius show tonight (God, I love my Sirius):

CALLER: blah blah, Skip Bayless sucks, blah blah...

SCOTTY: Skip Bayless gets more airtime than anybody over there at ESPN. Whenever I tune to that channel, he's on, day or night.

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or just move it back to a 40 yarder or something. that of course puts more importance on kickers. good ones will stand out more than bad ones.

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That's fine. I'd like to see the success rate in the 60-80% range. Make it matter. Also, more missed extra points means that 7 and 0 aren't such powerful squares in football pools.

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Or go back to the drop kick like Flutie did a couple years back. That would be awesome. Maybe limit it to QBs only.

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Maybe they should make the person who scores the TD kick the extra point.

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I'm pretty sure you were joking, but I think that would be [censored] awesome.

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God, I'd be rooting for defensive lineman to rumble in for a score even more than I do now, that would be fantastic.

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Some of the greatest kickers of yore - Pat Summerall, Loe 'The Toe' Groza - also doubled as d-linemen.

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or just move it back to a 40 yarder or something. that of course puts more importance on kickers. good ones will stand out more than bad ones.

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That's fine. I'd like to see the success rate in the 60-80% range. Make it matter. Also, more missed extra points means that 7 and 0 aren't such powerful squares in football pools.

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Or go back to the drop kick like Flutie did a couple years back. That would be awesome. Maybe limit it to QBs only.

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Maybe they should make the person who scores the TD kick the extra point.

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I'm pretty sure you were joking, but I think that would be [censored] awesome.

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This is seriously the best idea ever.

"I kick when I want to kick." -Randy Dandy

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there would be so many blocked extra points returned for scores