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cowpig 10-22-2007 01:15 PM

[x] BUSTO
 
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4036/31275883uw7.jpg

I don't even think I'm playing winning poker any more.

augie_ 10-22-2007 01:16 PM

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I don't even think I'm playing winning poker any more.

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which one tipped u off? the green, blue, or red?

prodonkey 10-22-2007 01:16 PM

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this implies you were to start with...

PerDoom 10-22-2007 01:19 PM

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I guess you finally realized that all the times you thought jack high could be good if river checked through, you were wrong.

Live and learn I guess.

cowpig 10-22-2007 01:20 PM

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I guess you finally realized that all the times you thought jack high could be good if river checked through, you were wrong.

Live and learn I guess.

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took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about

whoisthedrizzle 10-22-2007 01:24 PM

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I bet you got a sweet amount of rakeback.

Phresh 10-22-2007 01:25 PM

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Give me a screen shot of just the luck graph.

runhot 10-22-2007 01:28 PM

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http://www.thizzface.com/pics/local149.jpg

cowpig 10-22-2007 01:31 PM

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Give me a screen shot of just the luck graph.

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http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6052/00ix6.jpg

What's the difference between the graphs, exactly?

edit: I mean, what does the EV graph calculate that makes the gap wider than the all-in luck graph?

LiveNow 10-22-2007 01:31 PM

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about time for a title change?

coordi 10-22-2007 01:32 PM

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I think this graph says your playing excellent while running god awful. I always thought you were one of the best though so chin up!

GSykes 10-22-2007 01:38 PM

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I think this graph says your playing excellent while running god awful. I always thought you were one of the best though so chin up!

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yeah cuz losing money is [censored] awesome amirite

The 13th 4postle 10-22-2007 01:40 PM

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[X] OP should move down level

cowpig 10-22-2007 01:46 PM

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I think this graph says your playing excellent while running god awful. I always thought you were one of the best though so chin up!

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I dunno... it looks like I've been playing breakevenish poker for tens of thousands of hands now, and only running kinda bad.


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[X] OP should move down level

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Tried that today:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2152/000lt0.jpg

LOL_MODS 10-22-2007 01:52 PM

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take 2 weeks off, then quit for good

GSykes 10-22-2007 01:53 PM

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how close to busto?

bulldogs24 10-22-2007 01:57 PM

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please move back down to 1-2.. pretty please..

thats what happens when your boomswitch tourny win goes off

Phresh 10-22-2007 01:58 PM

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cowpig,

Check 'Just all ins' and 'main lines'in the luck graph.

cowpig 10-22-2007 02:03 PM

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It already is just all ins, and the line you're seeing is the difference between the main lines.


I'm not loading all those hands again.

scpi10 10-22-2007 02:07 PM

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every time I read thread like this it makes me feel good
someones misfortune = my happiness

shipitkthx 10-22-2007 02:30 PM

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You are down around 20k, you should be up around 9k-20k, there is the interpretation.

PJo336 10-22-2007 02:33 PM

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u once challenged me to HU4ROLLZ, i guess now would be a good time to take u up on that?

cowpig 10-22-2007 02:39 PM

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u once challenged me to HU4ROLLZ, i guess now would be a good time to take u up on that?

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link?

shipitkthx 10-22-2007 02:41 PM

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Give me a screen shot of just the luck graph.

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What's the difference between the graphs, exactly?

edit: I mean, what does the EV graph calculate that makes the gap wider than the all-in luck graph?

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I really should write an FAQ for this and have it stickied but here is the simple version:

The Game Analysis Tab calculates your sklansky bucks for every street in a hand, based on how much money was put in based on your showdown equity on that street. This would be the optimal way to calculate IF ALL HANDS made it to showdown. I've explained a number of times why its not accurate based on several factors but I don't feel like explaining it all again so just trust me. When looking at the graph you first posted, here is what the lines mean. The blue line is the actual amount you won at showdown, the red line is the amount you should have won at showdown. The green line is the amount you won overall, including both showdown and non-showdown hands. So looking at your graph you lost around 47k at showdown and you should have only lost about 3k at showdown, so your net run was about -44k. Add that to your total winnings of -22k and you should have won around 22k overall. The fact that your green line is above your blue line is a good thing because it shows you are winning a lot of money in non-showdown pots (the opposite of Fgators).

The allin luck tab calculates your equity only after you have gotten allin. So basically this is how you are running once the money has already been stuck in. This also has its fair share of inaccuracies but not nearly as many as the Game Analysis Tab. In your example you are down nearly 29k in equity after you get allin, therefore if we add this to your -22k in actual winnings you should have won around 7k, make sense?

jono 10-22-2007 02:44 PM

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Unfortunately poker ev doesn't do coolers or running good.

case 1 - cowpig puts all in with middle set versus top set. his sklansky shows up as negative even though it was correct to get the money in.

case 2 - cowpig calls $100 on flop drawing to 1 outer. He hits and wins $500 on turn. Incorrect to call but his sklansky will show up as positive here.

maybe I'm missing other cases

shipitkthx 10-22-2007 02:46 PM

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Unfortunately poker ev doesn't do coolers or running good.

case 1 - cowpig puts all in with middle set versus top set. his sklansky shows up as negative even though it was correct to get the money in.

case 2 - cowpig calls $100 on flop drawing to 1 outer. He hits and wins $500 on turn. Incorrect to call but his sklansky will show up as positive here.

maybe I'm missing other cases

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You're missing a ton of cases but you're on the right track. I've explained it all before its not really worth it.

PJo336 10-22-2007 02:49 PM

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u once challenged me to HU4ROLLZ, i guess now would be a good time to take u up on that?

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link?

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no clue, im feeling like june or july? im offended u dont remember, im just another notch on ur bedpost

keikiwai 10-22-2007 02:53 PM

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your green is above your blue

that means you're better than most

ImsaKidd 10-22-2007 02:57 PM

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HEY SWEET ANOTHER POKEREV THREAD WHERE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND

def NOT racist 10-22-2007 02:58 PM

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welcome to poker max, I HOPE UR HEADS A LIL SMALLER NOW

keikiwai 10-22-2007 02:59 PM

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WHAT ARE ALL THOSE [censored] COLORED LINES??????????????????????????

cowpig 10-22-2007 03:36 PM

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welcome to poker max, I HOPE UR HEADS A LIL SMALLER NOW

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lol, sooooo much smaller now.

who are you?

jmill2511 10-22-2007 03:40 PM

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welcome to poker max, I HOPE UR HEADS A LIL SMALLER NOW

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No everyone do not be swayed!!LAG is the way to play!!LAGs bang the hottest chicks!!

cowpig 10-22-2007 03:41 PM

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welcome to poker max, I HOPE UR HEADS A LIL SMALLER NOW

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No everyone do not be swayed!!LAG is the way to play!!LAGs bang the hottest chicks!!

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who said anything about not playing LAG?

88jayhawks 10-22-2007 03:50 PM

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welcome to poker max, I HOPE UR HEADS A LIL SMALLER NOW

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No everyone do not be swayed!!LAG is the way to play!!LAGs bang the hottest chicks!!

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who said anything about not playing LAG?

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35/29?

rica 10-22-2007 03:51 PM

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[x] not really busto

DJ Sensei 10-22-2007 05:29 PM

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dude just win another donkament or something

DonkeyKing 10-22-2007 05:32 PM

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[x] rebuy plz

JSmith2007 10-22-2007 05:32 PM

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lol @ playing NL600 but claiming to be busto.

Pasterbator 10-22-2007 05:36 PM

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whatever 1/4 of your roll is, find a tournament of that buyin and play it.

Seems to work well.


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