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Halfpoint 10-22-2007 02:15 AM

Brag or Beat???? Being a manchild
 
Right now Im watching a Mike Tyson show on classic sports (highly recommended) and they keep bringing up the fact that he is 19 years old.... WTF !?!?!?

see also Greg Oden

WHile you are able to bully others your age and dominate sports, do the disadvantages outweigh the pros?

GiantWalleye 10-22-2007 02:23 AM

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Tyson was a [censored] animal who crushed everyone from 19 to 23. I love watching those old fights on espn classic. IMO at that age he was the best boxer ever.

doubLe a tom 10-22-2007 02:30 AM

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lol those fights usually didnt last long

cking 10-22-2007 03:43 AM

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yeah watching that now too. usually when they show tyson they have to show like 5 fights to fill a half hour

im a model 10-22-2007 04:54 AM

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top athletes shouldnt go to prison. think of all the great fights we missed while mike was in jail for beating his wife, recounted by the perpetrator himself as, "DAT BITCH FLEW ACROSS DA ROOM!"

denying society of his matches in the prime of his career, that's the real crime. and also, NO NEW TAXES!

vote im a model for american president. thank you.

Halfpoint 10-22-2007 05:09 AM

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top athletes shouldnt go to prison. think of all the great fights we missed while mike was in jail for beating his wife, recounted by the perpetrator himself as, "DAT BITCH FLEW ACROSS DA ROOM!"

denying society of his matches in the prime of his career, that's the real crime. and also, NO NEW TAXES!

vote im a model for american president. thank you.

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Mike never got in trouble for beating Robin Givens. He went to prison for raping Desiree Washington at the Miss Black America pageant in Indianapolis.

MiloMinderbinder 10-22-2007 05:11 AM

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top athletes shouldnt go to prison. think of all the great fights we missed while mike was in jail for beating his wife, recounted by the perpetrator himself as, "DAT BITCH FLEW ACROSS DA ROOM!"

denying society of his matches in the prime of his career, that's the real crime. and also, NO NEW TAXES!

vote im a model for american president. thank you.

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He wasn't in the prime of his career. He was getting lazy and undisciplined in and out of the ring, which is how he had lost his title and lost his freedom.

A_C_Slater 10-22-2007 05:37 AM

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Tyson was a [censored] animal who crushed everyone from 19 to 23. I love watching those old fights on espn classic. IMO at that age he was the best boxer ever.

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But he only fought hamanaggars. Tyson is only given so much credit because he is an extreme offensive style fighter and exciting to watch. But if you take someone like Ali who is a defensive fighter it takes the guy forever to prove that he's the best.


Also, George Foreman was more "Tysonesque" then Tyson if you compare their career KO records and win streaks before winning the championship.


From wiki:

After amassing a record of 32-0, Foreman was ranked as the number one challenger by the WBA and WBC. In 1972, his string of wins continued with a series of five consecutive bouts in which he defeated each opponent within three rounds.

Still undefeated, and with an impressive knockout record, Foreman was set to challenge undefeated and undisputed world heavyweight champion Joe Frazier, who in 1971 had scored a 15-round unanimous decision over previously-unbeaten Muhammad Ali, following Ali's return to the ring after an exile of more than three and a half years. The showdown took place on January 22, 1973, in Kingston, Jamaica, with Foreman knocking down Frazier six times in two rounds to win the championship by knockout in one of boxing's biggest upsets.


Total fights 81
Wins 76
Wins by KO 68
Losses 5
Draws 0
No contests 0


89.4% KO ratio/to wins


And now Tyson's record

Total fights 58
Wins 50
Wins by KO 44
Losses 6
Draws 0
No contests 2


88% KO ration/to wins.

Halfpoint 10-22-2007 09:24 AM

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Tyson started to decline after Kevin Rooney was fired by Don King (1st bruno fight).

Gildwulf 10-22-2007 09:31 AM

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wtf is a hamanagger?

five4suited 10-22-2007 04:27 PM

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First he lost Cus, then Rooney. He coulda been the GOAT.

bustowithnobra 10-22-2007 04:48 PM

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I'm not one to get into these Tyson/Ali arguments, since no one could say who would beat who until fight night, but what I can argue, is people should not speak on Tyson's life or character, without knowing where to even begin. First, in case you didn't know this little fact, Desiree Washington accused someone in her high school of rape the year before she accused Tyson, and that person got off Scott free (evidence of this was not allowed at Tyson's trial due the laws of the time [similar to Kobe case not allowing in evidence of promiscous conduct]). Second, as Mike Tyson said, anyone "with a grain of sense in their head," would know if he ever abused Robin Givens, it would be kind of obvious. Third, Don King had his TAX LAWYER, defend Tyson in a RAPE TRIAL, because he felt it was the only lawyer he could trust- believe me the two fields do not coincide. Fourth, why would Tyson, in the prime of his career, need to rape any woman, when he's getting laid everynight by various exotic women who are throwing themselves at him? Why did Desiree Washington GO TO HIS ROOM at 3 in the morning, TAKE HER TAMPON out (in the bathroom), and not run out if she was terrified.

Tyson's father was gone or dead before he could remember that far, his mother DIED when he was 14, his adopted father and trainer Cus Da'mato DIED when he was 17, his best friend and manager Jim Jacobs DIED when he was 20. Its not an easy life when everyone around you is dead, and people think your an animal.

Linky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ug-ooNCMuE

Link to documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_78u...ed&search=

GiantWalleye 10-22-2007 05:04 PM

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wtf is a hamanagger?

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I'm kinda curious myself.



Also I couldn't hardly watch the youtube on the last post. I get really annoyed by eye of the tiger.

bustowithnobra 10-22-2007 05:08 PM

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Also I couldn't hardly watch the youtube on the last post. I get really annoyed by eye of the tiger.

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Its not Eye of the Tiger...

GiantWalleye 10-22-2007 05:11 PM

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Also I couldn't hardly watch the youtube on the last post. I get really annoyed by eye of the tiger.

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Its not Eye of the Tiger...

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what is it then? I must be mixing them up. Either way I hate that song on the video.

A_C_Slater 10-22-2007 05:39 PM

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wtf is a hamanagger?

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It's what Bobby Heenan used to call the jobbers in the old WWF. Taken from ham-and-egger.


Definition: an ordinary or regular person; also, a rather incompetent person
Example: He is a real ham-and-egger, rubbing elbows with the construction workers and plumbers and cops at the local watering hole.
Etymology: from the old days when miners held boxing matches; the winner got money, the loser got a ham and egg meal
Usage: slightly derogatory


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