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mmbt0ne 10-21-2007 08:13 PM

Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Since 1990, the highest line I can find is -20 twice (Buffalo against Indy in 1991 and SF against Tampa in 1992) and -24 once (SF against Cincy in 1993). FWIW, the favorites are 1-2 in these games with SF losing both ATS.

The Pats are 7-0 ATS this season and have had 3 games over -15 already. With @Buffalo, NYJ and Miami left, are we going to see the highest line ever before the season is over?

wiper 10-21-2007 08:21 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
best chance is against miami at home, and it's doubtful..

@buffalo won't get anywhere near 24.5...

B00T 10-21-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
they are playing miami week 16.. there is no chance they will be 21+ pt favorites, assuming there will not be much to play for at that point in time...

cue the postoak/naj/thremp orgy of hate to chime in

NajdorfDefense 10-21-2007 08:28 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
No.

PropPlayer 10-21-2007 08:32 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
If they are -24.5 I'd bet on them to cover.
Kraft is a big time gambler and gives key players a bonus based on their ATS record for each season.

morello 10-21-2007 11:31 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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If they are -24.5 I'd bet on them to cover.
Kraft is a big time gambler and gives key players a bonus based on their ATS record for each season.

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I doubt this is true. If it is, it's clearly circumventing the salary cap and could/would lead to punishment from the league.

Nonfiction 10-21-2007 11:35 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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If they are -24.5 I'd bet on them to cover.
Kraft is a big time gambler and gives key players a bonus based on their ATS record for each season.

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I doubt this is true. If it is, it's clearly circumventing the salary cap and could/would lead to punishment from the league.

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Patriots cheating? Unpossible

shipitkthx 10-22-2007 12:04 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Opening line against WAS is -16 (-108) on Pinny.

Jazzy3113 10-22-2007 11:44 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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If they are -24.5 I'd bet on them to cover.
Kraft is a big time gambler and gives key players a bonus based on their ATS record for each season.

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nice level

Kneel B4 Zod 10-22-2007 12:57 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Jets @ Pats should be about -30

mmbt0ne 10-22-2007 02:14 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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they are playing miami week 16.. there is no chance they will be 21+ pt favorites, assuming there will not be much to play for at that point in time..

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FWIW, one of the SF lines was in week 14, and the other was in week 16. The Buffalo line was week 7.

NajdorfDefense 10-22-2007 07:25 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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Jets @ Pats should be about -30

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Heck, let's make it -49.5 if we're gonna be all SE and talk about should be!

I think they win 206-0, personally.

No, wait, 207-0, so they can beat the GaTech record!

mmbt0ne 10-22-2007 07:33 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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No, wait, 207-0, so they can beat the GaTech record!

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Please to be learning your history son.

222-0

Henry17 10-22-2007 07:33 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
It would have to be 223-0 to beat the record.

NajdorfDefense 10-22-2007 07:50 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
I knew that. You two = pwn3d! Bwahahahaha!

I bet Brady throws for eleventy-billion TDs this year.

PropPlayer 10-22-2007 07:57 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Naj is just being greedy. He is trying to keep you all of the Pats so that the free Pats money the bookies give out each week is around longer for him to take advantage of.

He is known for doing this, he even made fun of Vince Young and would lead you to believe its not true that "Vince Young just wins games".

Hopefully ya'll can see past the Naj tricks and keep cashing those Patriots and Titans checks each week.

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silentbob 10-22-2007 07:59 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Patriots vs. Ditka?

iggymcfly 10-22-2007 08:01 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
And Steelers. Don't forget the Steelers.

Well, I mean they lost this week, but that's because Denver got really really mad about going 2-3. The coaches and veterans probably gave a big speech or something. At least that's what John Madden told me.

Grasshopp3r 10-22-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
It was the smurf costumes that Denver was sporting. The Steelers were laughing too hard to cover Denver's no name receivers.

crockpot 10-22-2007 08:51 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Pats vs. Cumberland and Cumberland recruits a team of scrubs?

Post-Oak 10-22-2007 10:19 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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there is no chance they will be 21+ pt favorites, assuming there will not be much to play for at that point in time...

cue the postoak/naj/thremp orgy of hate to chime in

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Nope, but I will take Miami @ Pats -20 right now if anyone wants the action.

B00T 10-22-2007 10:54 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
i would of but things are a little different from when I posted that, namely that Ronnie Brown is done for the year

mmbt0ne 11-18-2007 11:59 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Ok, the Pats are just toying with people now.

Next week is Philly at NE. If McNabb can't go, do we get over -20?

NajdorfDefense 11-19-2007 12:28 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Reid says McNabb is going. -17.5 looks about right if McNabb starts. Meaning NWE wins 38-13.

internetdonk 11-19-2007 01:10 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
How does Phily score 17????

and

How does NE score less tahn 45??

seriously...

EWS87 11-19-2007 01:11 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
the jet game should be the most lopsided line of alltime

bellicheck is really gonna wanna run the score up

furyshade 11-19-2007 01:16 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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the jet game should be the most lopsided line of alltime

bellicheck is really gonna wanna run the score up

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did you not see that they are playing dolphins week 16?

Murphinator 11-19-2007 01:17 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
I will be amazed if they don't break that record now. Especially against Miami and NYJ, I gaurantee Bill is still thinkin about what Shula said a week or so ago.

Rustjive 11-19-2007 01:35 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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Reid says McNabb is going. -17.5 looks about right if McNabb starts. Meaning NWE wins 38-13.

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Don't see it - take the Bills line, add 6 to account for HFA, and Philly is, what, favored by 3 over Buffalo on a neutral field? That's -19. If the books want to balance the public hammering the Pats it'll have to be 20 or more.

Edit: What I mean is by closing it'll be -19 and/or close to -20.

kevin017 11-19-2007 02:39 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
i dunno what the books will open with, but does everyone agree a fair line has to be in the 20's? seems to me even a -24 line would be low vs. some teams, and a -20 line would still be low vs everyone (but the colts obv). I have trouble believing the eagles are going to keep it within 20 when only 2 other teams have all year long.

RikkiDee 11-19-2007 04:10 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
somehow the line opened at -15 @ buffalo. Maybe the bye week+indy game made everyone forget how good NE is, or maybe vegas isn't ready to accept that any NFL team should be favored by more than 20 points.

Until we are in the 24~ point range I'm riding the pats all the way.

Thremp 11-19-2007 04:15 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Every post since midnight has gotten more and more retarded. Some suggested an idea... We take a vote of people and banish them to a "I R TARD" thread in the SBF until their time is up. Then they can post other stuff. Habitual offenders will be subject to similar programs like "3 Strikes" or "Alabama Ice".

I propose the last 7 posters in the thread form the inaugural group. With furyshade taking only a small time for corroborating with teh enemies.

nutshot2 11-19-2007 04:25 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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I propose the last 7 posters in the thread form the inaugural group.

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Here's hoping it includes you.

Post-Oak 11-19-2007 04:43 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
FWIW, this line was Phi @ NE -17 as one of Sportsbook's "Games of the Year" selections during last week (before today's games).

Obviously, it is going to open higher (regardless of what is happening with the terribly over-rated Donovan McNabb).

Tuco 11-19-2007 04:57 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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they are playing miami week 16.. there is no chance they will be 21+ pt favorites, assuming there will not be much to play for at that point in time...

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You're kidding right? Shula runs his mouth and BB has obviously decided to prove a point about the best team ever. How perfect he gets to play the old man's team in week 16 and win by 50? I would bet that Brady sets the record for most TD's in a game that night.

Tuco.

kyro 11-19-2007 10:47 AM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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the jet game should be the most lopsided line of alltime

bellicheck is really gonna wanna run the score up

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I agree. The line should be -28

Lottery Larry 11-19-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
All I know is, I won't take less than 45 this week, I'd be hoping for +50.

(I'm just not going to watch the game, I think)

Jazzy3113 11-19-2007 01:03 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
Does anyone think books might just stop taking action on the Pats till the playoffs?

kyro 11-19-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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Does anyone think books might just stop taking action on the Pats till the playoffs?

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They should just stop setting bad lines. All they need to do is set a line that will get them 50% action on both sides and they'll profit regardless. Even if it's not the most profitable line, I'm sure they'd do that before not accepting bets on them.

MicroBob 11-19-2007 01:19 PM

Re: Patriots line -24.5 before the end of the season?
 
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Does anyone think books might just stop taking action on the Pats till the playoffs?

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Is this serious?


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