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JReagan22 10-20-2007 01:40 PM

nyc bust
 
Hi, longtime reader here...

Just a heads up that a certain midtown east poker club was raided yesterday (Friday). I showed up to hear the bad news last night.
Everyone might want to be cautious and take the weekend off from other clubs in case the busts are coming in a bunch. I hope not, and I don't mean to scare anyone if this is just an isolated incident.

BTW, the bouncers outside said that this time, the card room's shut down for good. who knows..

Mod note: There is nothing wrong with this OP, but I am locking the thread because I will be away and *TT* is away and I have had to delete many replies to it that were not acceptable. -RR

*TT* 10-22-2007 04:17 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
UPDATE:

The room was called Straddle. Straddle no longer exists, they were officially evicted last week. There has been an evection proceeding in the works for some time now, it finally took place. Word on the street is they have no plans to reopen at this time due to the legal environment, of course if they do reopen somewhere else you won't hear about it here for security reasons but at this point you just witnessed the end of the Straddle era.

Reminder: if you are responding to this thread please do not include intimate details as per the B&M forum FAQ. Posters who break this very simple rule will be dealt with as per the forum FAQ.

All-inMcLovin 10-22-2007 11:32 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
RIP Straddle

*TT* 10-22-2007 11:48 PM

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RIP Straddle

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only in death do clubs in NYC have a name. Its name was Straddle.

http://www.reellifewisdom.com/files/...fight-club.jpg

All-inMcLovin 10-22-2007 11:50 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
*For whom the bell tolls*

onoble 10-23-2007 12:18 AM

Re: nyc bust
 
[censored]

All-inMcLovin 10-23-2007 02:18 AM

Re: nyc bust
 
The extra
http://www.oldvegaschips.com/bigblindc.JPG
with an option club... is No More.

mrkilla 10-23-2007 08:00 AM

Re: nyc bust
 
[ QUOTE ]
UPDATE:

The room was called Straddle. Straddle no longer exists, they were officially evicted last week. There has been an evection proceeding in the works for some time now, it finally took place. Word on the street is they have no plans to reopen at this time due to the legal environment, of course if they do reopen somewhere else you won't hear about it here for security reasons but at this point you just witnessed the end of the Straddle era.

Reminder: if you are responding to this thread please do not include intimate details as per the B&M forum FAQ. Posters who break this very simple rule will be dealt with as per the forum FAQ.

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:/

well [edited named] told me that [edited name] plans to [edited action] but not any time soom. Right now everyone [is doing something somewhere North of AC but south of Foxwoods]

hope this helps

now here 10-23-2007 09:37 AM

Re: nyc bust
 
im gonna miss the straddle. what is happening to nyc?

mrkilla 10-23-2007 09:53 AM

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im gonna miss the straddle. what is happening to nyc?

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happening...if you mean for the past 2-3 years then its simple, poker is illegal when they find the rooms now they bust them.

No one turns a blind eye anymore , environment is totally diffrent

lefty rosen 10-23-2007 11:22 AM

Re: nyc bust
 
Does anybody think it's because of less police corruption? I know that when they had a corruption scandal in Toronto. They claimed that detectives protected night clubs, so it's not a stretch to think games weren't protected. In the past NYC has had scandals where the police protected bordellos....

*TT* 10-23-2007 12:04 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
lefty - its seriously best to not discuss why. If the reasons why became commonly known then eventually it leaks to the press (like it always does) and thats just bad news for everyone. Some things in life you must grin and bear it.

All-inMcLovin 10-23-2007 09:38 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
LMAO

North of AC south of Foxwoods

LMAO

NYTyler 10-23-2007 10:02 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
people will still try however...a new one will pop up eventually.

*TT* 10-23-2007 10:26 PM

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people will still try however...a new one will pop up eventually.

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You can always tell the newcomers (for what its worth i consider myself to be a newcomer too) to the NY Poker world when they make a statement like that, they old timers know that there will always be a game somewhere, but they also understand that it might be hard to get in it. For many years there were only 1-2 rooms in NY maximum spreading only a handful of games, that changed 4 years ago with the advent of the mega-rooms. So in some ways the current situation is the status quo. The days of large multiple rooms spread around the city are done, loose lips sunk ships.

FISHCAKES 10-24-2007 02:41 AM

Re: nyc bust
 
Alot of the games have moved outside Manhattan, the rooms seem to draw much less attention in the suburbs here, it probably wouldn't be the same in smaller cities. The poker economy is too big to dissapear, there are quite a few people who count on the underground rooms to earn a living whether through dealing, operation the floor, providing security or even as a prop player. As long as you are a decent person that people deem trustworthy you will find a few games, ****************************. A small piece of advice I can offer any players is to befriend a few of the dealers who seem good at their job, the ones that seem to know alot of the other players personally. Tip them well, treat them with respect and exchange phone numbers. They always know where the next game is and sometimes their reference is the only way to get introduced to a game.

All-inMcLovin 10-25-2007 02:58 AM

Re: nyc bust
 
Fishcakes that is really good advice.

I had befriended a few dealers (and tipped them well too) but never exchanged phone numbers. That would have been a great thing to do.

All-inMcLovin 10-25-2007 11:28 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
NYC Poker

Let's just legalize it!

All-inMcLovin 10-26-2007 06:06 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
Let's all plan a 2p2 trip to AC !

graydot 10-26-2007 06:29 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
Can we discuss on why Straddle stayed up for so long despite countless busts?

All-inMcLovin 10-26-2007 06:35 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
I have some "theories" and 2nd-hand information as to why it *continued* to stay open, but I think I'll get banned if I post. I'll await an OK from a Mod..

FireStorm 10-26-2007 06:41 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
Good luck with any information, 2nd hand or not, getting on this board for more then 6 minutes without being shunned. Clearly we wouldn't want to give anything away regarding a club every poker player and cop in a 75 mile radius knew about.

toutatis70 10-26-2007 06:46 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
Seems like these Ny city bust's are becoming quite common. Wonder who is behind closing them down. I met a very aggressive mid limit nl player from new york during my travels that was going to give me info on where all the rooms were located last year and names of his friends who play there but now i bet they have prob. all changed.
this nice jewish fellow who had a very old baseball card as a card protector said all new yorkers play as aggressive as he does lol. And please excuse my grammer, I'm somewhat successfull but obviously not well educated.

All-inMcLovin 10-26-2007 06:47 PM

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Good luck with any information, 2nd hand or not, getting on this board for more then 6 minutes without being shunned. Clearly we wouldn't want to give anything away regarding a club every poker player and cop in a 75 mile radius knew about.

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QFT
LMAO

*TT* 10-26-2007 07:07 PM

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I have some "theories" and 2nd-hand information as to why it *continued* to stay open, but I think I'll get banned if I post. I'll await an OK from a Mod..

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Since it would be knowingly breaking rules then your right, a ban is a possibility. Come on guys - use your heads. 2+2 wont be used as a source of information to hurt poker.

All-inMcLovin 10-26-2007 07:14 PM

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TT, I obviously know its against the rules.

However this information really wouldn't hurt NYC poker. Just shed light on why one of its fore-gone clubs stayed open for sooo long.

*TT* 10-26-2007 07:18 PM

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TT, I obviously know its against the rules.

However this information really wouldn't hurt NYC poker. Just shed light on why one of its fore-gone clubs stayed open for sooo long.

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sorry, unless your talking about how it took NYC more than 6 months to get an eviction notice served to shut down a business then this is a topic that just wont be discussed. Its not in the best interest of NY poker players, and we are here to protect their needs regardless of what some may think.

All-inMcLovin 10-26-2007 07:19 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
My explanation: Variance.

FireStorm 10-27-2007 06:25 PM

Re: nyc bust
 
I laugh repeatedly every time I read the posts about not divulging info in order to keep clubs "safe". BTW let me offer a shoutout to all the NYPD Vice currently reading this board for illicit underground poker room info. I'm sure there are multitudes of you glued to the keyboard, anxiously awaiting the valuable, thusfar secret info which we the posters of 2p2 are about to make known.

mrkilla 10-29-2007 08:10 AM

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I laugh repeatedly every time I read the posts about not divulging info in order to keep clubs "safe". BTW let me offer a shoutout to all the NYPD Vice currently reading this board for illicit underground poker room info. I'm sure there are multitudes of you glued to the keyboard, anxiously awaiting the valuable, thusfar secret info which we the posters of 2p2 are about to make known.

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Is it ignorant to think that maybe once ever say 3 -4 months some dude logins in and does a search for nyc poker to see what he brings up? Maybe he does this on craigs list or yahoo news groups too. Perhaps he does just a google search to see what "NYC and Poker" brings up , see cause public discussion of things that are illegal and go "unnoticed" tends to be bad.

While its probably no big secret to some letting it flow free is not a good idea is it?

mrkilla 10-29-2007 08:12 AM

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Seems like these Ny city bust's are becoming quite common. Wonder who is behind closing them down.

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the easiest answer to this, club wars

*TT* 10-29-2007 11:08 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Seems like these Ny city bust's are becoming quite common. Wonder who is behind closing them down.

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the easiest answer to this, club wars

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that was the easiest answer, its bigger than that now of course. But no doubt thats what started the ball rolling.

*TT* 10-29-2007 11:08 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I laugh repeatedly every time I read the posts about not divulging info in order to keep clubs "safe". BTW let me offer a shoutout to all the NYPD Vice currently reading this board for illicit underground poker room info. I'm sure there are multitudes of you glued to the keyboard, anxiously awaiting the valuable, thusfar secret info which we the posters of 2p2 are about to make known.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is it ignorant to think that maybe once ever say 3 -4 months some dude logins in and does a search for nyc poker to see what he brings up? Maybe he does this on craigs list or yahoo news groups too. Perhaps he does just a google search to see what "NYC and Poker" brings up , see cause public discussion of things that are illegal and go "unnoticed" tends to be bad.

While its probably no big secret to some letting it flow free is not a good idea is it?

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the #1 cause of information leaking is players themselves.

DespotInExile 11-01-2007 04:13 PM

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the #1 cause of information leaking is wives calling the cops on their degenerate husbands to stop the bleeding of the family's resources

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FYP


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