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I currently have $75 on Stars and I'm playing .5/.1 6 max NL and the accumulation of FPP's is frustratingly slow. Are there faster ways? SnG's? Limit instead of NL? Full ring?

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in before someone bashes you for playing 100NL with a $75 BR

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You'll go busto before you have enough for anything, fyi i earned 2000 in a day playing 50nl

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sigh, 2good RichAM

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I think he meant 0.05/0.1...

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With your current bankroll, I don't know if it will matter much. You're better off focusing on your game (whichever you want to play) and building your bankroll so you can play higher. I've been playing NL100 FR, and have no problems accumulating enough VPPs to make Silver, even with very few hours per month. When I can actually get the hours in, I've made Gold.

For what it's worth, I never even made Silver when I used to play SNGs for similar hours, with a similar bankroll. I haven't done the math, but bankroll considerations might be in your favor with FRNL vs SNGs. With SNG's, you want to have 100 BuyIns to keep your Risk of Ruin down. Conventional wisdom says 20 BuyIns for FRNL, so you might already be over your head at 10NL. Of course, with SNGs it's more predictable exactly how many FPPs you get with each tourney.

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As said, at 0.05/0.10 you should focus on improving your game and bankroll to move up rather than what you can buy with the FPPs. Jumping up in stakes without the proper bankroll and experience will only break you.

It won't be until you get to .50/1NL (100NL) or 1/2 limit when you really start gathering FPPs at a nice rate. SNGs aren't very good for VPPs unless you're at higher stakes and playing turbos.

I have no problem hitting Gold now and hit Platinum once, usually playing .50/1 limit and FR NL, and 1/2 limit, on minimal hours as I have a career and family.

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When I was clearing a bonus 4-tabling 1/2 limit, I was rolling in FPPs.

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You have to understand that FPP works like rakeback. You're not going to earn more value in FPP than you contribute in rake. The only way to earn FPP at a faster rake is to play more hands at higher limits and contribute more to rake.

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You have to understand that FPP works like rakeback. You're not going to earn more value in FPP than you contribute in rake. The only way to earn FPP at a faster rake is to play more hands at higher limits and contribute more to rake.

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Not completely true.

Stars doesnt do partial points, so if you play ALOT of hands at the micros you will more then your rake:points ratio will be alot higher then the guys that are getting points every single hand

to say that he isnt getting points because he isnt contributing enough to rake is technically correct

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For SNGs & MTTs, Stars actually rounds up half points. So if you play a $6.50 SNG, you get 3 FPPs. If you play a $3.30 tourney, you get 2 FPPs.

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Stars doesnt do partial points, so if you play ALOT of hands at the micros you will more then your rake:points ratio will be alot higher then the guys that are getting points every single hand

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I don't think this is correct if I'm understanding you correctly.

At 1/2 and lower the rake has to be $0.40 to earn an FPP.
You don't just get a point just because the hand is raked.

So at some of the lower stakes you will be playing a lot of hands that are raked $0.05 up to $0.35 that you earn nothing for.

And the lower you go the less your chances are of having a pot make it to $8 to earn that $0.40 rake. So you will end playing a lot of hands that get raked $0.05 or $0.10 perhaps and maybe once in a blue-moon get a hand big enough to actually earn a point.

Obviously at .05/.10 NL you aren't going to earn many points at all because there aren't going to be many pots that make it to the magical $8 mark.

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ok I'm really sorry, I made a type, I play .05/.1, which is obviously a lot different than .5/1. Anyways, like somebody said, the pot has to be $8 for the rake to be .4 for me to get a FPP and that just takes forever. Having said that, should I play tournaments instead then since isn't it for every $1 you pay in tournament fees you get a FPP?

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Yes.

What Bob said is correct so it would be better moving up limits or start playing some small sngs.

If you start playing the $4.4/180 sngs you will be getting 2 fpp for each one($.4 rake) which should be much better than what you are currently getting

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Are you comfortable playing tournaments? Is that what you want to play?

Let me tell you, as an experienced bonus whore who has gone from .25/.50 FR FL last year to 2/4-3/6 SH FL this year (still not very good...I'm a slow learner lol) and has cleared a TON of bonuses in that time frame, don't play different limits, games, etc. just to clear the bonus faster. I remember when I first started I got beat up at Party when I bit off a bit more than I could chew and tried to clear a big bonus quickly. I played too many tables, and lost more than I cleared in bonus. I made a similar mistake several months later at Hollywood...bonus cleared so much better there at higher limits than I usually played. Lost more than I cleared, and eventually abandoned a bonus (sacrilege!).

I know it's frustrating how slowly some bonuses clear at the lower limits, but it's important not to get in over your head trying to clear them quicker. If you're good at and/or enjoy tournaments, great. If not, don't do it!

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I think you'd be better of with $5+.50 SNGs than the $4/180 players SNGs... less variance, since you might not cash very often, or at all before you're bust. Don't they have like $1 or $2 SNGs? I still think you're better off improving your game and building a roll before worrying about how many FPPs you're collecting. Why such a desire for FPPs? Getting them quicker won't mean much if you're at $0 and 500 FPP.