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NajdorfDefense 10-18-2007 05:39 PM

I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
' October 18, 2007 -- TAMPA - Joe Torre fired The Boss.
In a shocking result, Torre today turned down the Yankees $5 million, 1-year offer to return as the Yankees' manager for his 13th season.

Torre was offered $5 million base package and another $1 million for each the division series, league series and the World Series.

"Joe torre turned that offer down today. We respect his decision. We respect everything he has done but it is now time to move forward," Yankees' President Randy Levine said.'


Prop was Torre is fired by NYY [not retired or contract expire] by Dec 31, 2007. I am now the clear winner, correct?

Thremp 10-18-2007 05:40 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
Umm... His contract will expire.

coolmoedee 10-18-2007 05:56 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
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Umm... His contract will expire.

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I would say you should win because they didn't fire him like most thought they would...however, if the bet included his contract running out (which it's going to) then I dont see how you could win unless they re-new his contract. IMO

NajdorfDefense 10-18-2007 06:20 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
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Umm... His contract will expire.

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Yes. The prop was worded that Torre must be fired.
Retire = win
contract up = win
The Yanks offered him a new deal. Thus offer <> fired.

PropPlayer 10-18-2007 06:23 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
edit: nm. didn't see last post.

MicroBob 10-18-2007 06:26 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
Have fun arguing this out with the site Naj.
I'm guessing it's slightly better than 50/50 that they will pay you as they should.

Thremp 10-18-2007 06:27 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Umm... His contract will expire.

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Yes. The prop was worded that Torre must be fired.
Retire = win
contract up = win
The Yanks offered him a new deal. Thus offer <> fired.

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Yeah, I try not to think. I was just pointing out the outcome that'll probably happen, lest he retire. After looking yeah, you should win.

Utah 10-18-2007 06:50 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
I think there is no doubt you should win.

However, I wonder if this was all an elaborate setup for everyone to save face.

NhlNut 10-18-2007 07:10 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
Seems clear enough.
What book?

centris 10-18-2007 07:15 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
What do you guys think about Mattingly to be the next manager at 2/3 at bodog? Value? Girardi at 7/2 is the only other one I like here.

Joe Girardi
7/2

Don Mattingly
2/3

Tony LaRussa
5/2

Bobby Valentine
5/1

Lou Piniella
15/1

Field (Any Other Manager)
27/20

BudLewis 10-18-2007 10:12 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
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What do you guys think about Mattingly to be the next manager at 2/3 at bodog? Value? Girardi at 7/2 is the only other one I like here.

Joe Girardi
7/2

Don Mattingly
2/3

Tony LaRussa
5/2

Bobby Valentine
5/1

Lou Piniella
15/1

Field (Any Other Manager)
27/20

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I just maxed Girardi (only $100). I think he's at least as likely as Mattingly. It's hard for me to imagine either Piniella or Valentne being a serious candidate, and there's a lot of uncertainty around La Russa's situation.

Girardi vs. Mattingly, Girardi seems like the more qualified candidate (manager of the year as opposed to no managerial experience at any level) and Girardi probably could have managed again in 07 if he didn't want to hold out for the Yankees' job- I'm speculating here, but I think Girardi thinks he will be the guy, and I'm not sure that Donnie's public waffling this week helps him.

Thanks for posting.

NajdorfDefense 10-19-2007 02:05 AM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
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Seems clear enough.
What book?

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vip, they haven't graded it yet, but this just happened today, so I expect they will shortly. 'Fired' is pretty much the opposite of 'offered to extend his deal for several $million.'

CrushinFelt 10-19-2007 09:38 AM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
rofl @ lou pinella

SunOfBeach 10-19-2007 12:35 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
I'd be shocked if VIP doesn't grade this in your favor.

youtalkfunny 10-19-2007 05:10 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
Who says the contract expires on Dec 31? I always thought baseball contracts expired at the end of a team's season.

Thremp 10-19-2007 06:40 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
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Who says the contract expires on Dec 31? I always thought baseball contracts expired at the end of a team's season.

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Dec 1 IIRC

Podes 10-20-2007 02:20 AM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
I think you may not be in the clear yet. Okay so his contract will expire. Isnt it possible that the Boss says "Alright then Im going to make a point and fire him" That certainly isnt beyond him. Also, remember you may not get paid until 12/2 because wouldn't his contract need to actually expire?

NajdorfDefense 10-21-2007 11:59 AM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
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I'd be shocked if VIP doesn't grade this in your favor.

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They did a few days ago. Me = winnah! Had the money tied up for 6 months, but I'll take the 40% return.

silentbob 10-29-2007 01:47 PM

Re: I win \"No\" on Torre getting fired, right?!?
 
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I just maxed Girardi (only $100).

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Congrats, looks like he's the guy. Wished I had jumped on this.


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