Identifying other 2p2ers
 

If I'm playing at any given casino for the first time, is there any "socially acceptable" manner (in 2p2 terms), to identify myself as one who frequents this forum and to meet other 2p2ers?

The reason I ask is that I don't get to play live often- maybe four or five times a year since the closest casino is about five hours drive- and I never know anyone when I get there. I'd like to meet other folks that love the game and have enough interest in it to post here.

Obviously, I don't want to sit down at a table and ask if there are any 2p2ers here. Is a casual "sup bro?" acceptable? Any other ideas?

Anyone going to be playing in Tunica next week?

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Just look for the donkeys who think they play good.

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what limits do you play?
AFAIK, very few players at 20/40 and below post on 2p2. You might average one for every 3 tables you sit at.
I guess it depends on your area though.

edit: it's prob hard to go wrong with a solid selection from LOL Shirtaments
http://lolshirtaments.myshopify.com/

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I generally expect that I'm seeing a few 2+2ers in my games - they tend to play a rather distinctive style that does stand out.

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I have this problem too. Plus at 51 I look fairly stupid saying "sup bro" to everyone I meet.

And I have no idea what the countersign is. Is it "sup bro" as well? Wouldn't anybody who is under 30 answer that anyway?

I typically just ask somebody who plays like they are thinking if they know 2+2. I try to do it quietly but one time a guy from across the table heard and said "2+2?, yeah I do that" fairly loud and it spawned a conversation in which more than half the table confessed to participating. And the one guy who was playing very poorly started mocking 2+2.

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I have this problem too. Plus at 51 I look fairly stupid saying "sup bro" to everyone I meet.

And I have no idea what the countersign is. Is it "sup bro" as well? Wouldn't anybody who is under 30 answer that anyway?

I typically just ask somebody who plays like they are thinking if they know 2+2. I try to do it quietly but one time a guy from across the table heard and said "2+2?, yeah I do that" fairly loud and it spawned a conversation in which more than half the table confessed to participating. And the one guy who was playing very poorly started mocking 2+2.

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I was thinking the same thoughts. Namely, how silly I might appear with a "sup bro"-hello at age 52, and how I'll interpret a "not much, bro" response.

Maybe someone should start a poll for the "Official Covert 2p2 Salutation."

Or, then again, maybe Snowball's right. I'll just spring for the #95 sup bro t-shirt and hope for the best.

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Anyone going to be playing in Tunica next week?

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I'm around there most weekends. There's a couple of us who are regulars in Tunica.

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Seriously, just ask. Contrary to popular opinion around here, publicly mentioning 2p2 isn't going to cause every fish who hears about it to suddenly go out and become a winning player.

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what limits do you play?
AFAIK, very few players at 20/40 and below post on 2p2.

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actually 70% or more of most mid-limit tables probably reads 2+2. We had over 2 million unique visitors in the past 6 months, as a group we have got to come to terms with the fact that 2+2 is commonly read. "2+2'ers" are not special anymore, we are only special because we contribute to the forum often because in reality the majority of readers are not members.

I use the NY Times analogy. Everyone reads it, but not everyone subscribes.

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Seriously, just ask. Contrary to popular opinion around here, publicly mentioning 2p2 isn't going to cause every fish who hears about it to suddenly go out and become a winning player.

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To be candid, I hadn't considered the "fish angle." I was more concerned that a fellow 2p2er wouldn't want to be identified as such during a game. Nor would I want to talk about it, or spawn a conversation about it, during the game. I was rather looking for some innocuos means of making like-minded new friends.

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what limits do you play?
AFAIK, very few players at 20/40 and below post on 2p2. You might average one for every 3 tables you sit at.
I guess it depends on your area though.

edit: it's prob hard to go wrong with a solid selection from LOL Shirtaments
http://lolshirtaments.myshopify.com/

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lol at the Rickroll shirt. Gold.

I usually just ask people if they're 2p2ers, but it does get a little awkward when they're like "2 What? What's that?" and I just have to be like "It's an internet thing -- nevermind"

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Seriously, just ask. Contrary to popular opinion around here, publicly mentioning 2p2 isn't going to cause every fish who hears about it to suddenly go out and become a winning player.

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To be candid, I hadn't considered the "fish angle." I was more concerned that a fellow 2p2er wouldn't want to be identified as such during a game. Nor would I want to talk about it, or spawn a conversation about it, during the game. I was rather looking for some innocuos means of making like-minded new friends.

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lol its poker, you have no friends. And your right, some might consider it to be rude.

Its simple, if there is someone you would like to be friends with just say high away from the table. It doesn't matter if they are on 2+2 or not, if they aren't you might introduce them to a brand new world!

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Go to men's room.
Corner stall.
Tap your foot.
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Go to men's room.
Corner stall.
Tap your foot.
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i thought thats how to identify a republican, i am so confused.

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You open with, "Does the brown trout sleep in the closet?". The appropriate reply is, "Aye she does."

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Wow. 2M unique visitors in six months. I had no idea, but am genuinely impressed. I suppose this speaks well for the overall popularity of the game, and, more specifically, for the robust offerings of 2+2.

I am curious, however, how you derived the 70% of mid-stakes players visit the site. Does that include both B&M and internet. How do you measure/conclude this? (Not asking for trade secrets, btw.)

Finally, IMHO, the 2+2 community will always be "special", NYT analogy notwithstanding.

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Just not in Minneapolis airport, right?

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Finally, IMHO, the 2+2 community will always be "special",

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It was alot more "special" a few years ago. Now its more like the special olympics.

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I am curious, however, how you derived the 70% of mid-stakes players visit the site. Does that include both B&M and internet. How do you measure/conclude this? (Not asking for trade secrets, btw.)


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Its an estimate based on non-scientific measurements. Last year I went to play at the commerce, put my name (TT) on the 20 and 40 lists. I sat in the 20 game, floor came up and said TT (he reads 2+2 and knew who I was) your 40 game is ready. Guy to my right says "TT? From 2+2? Is that you?" Guy to my left says "TT? Your famous!". I racked up and stopped using my nickname on the board due to total humiliation [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

i guess I might be one of the better people to judge this just because my nickname is so easy to remember, but honestly if I sit down at a game and say "high I am TT from 2+2" 2/3 or greater of the table would know what 2+2 is guarenteed.

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I will try to start a conversation about Poker on TV and later ask if which net sites they play on. After some chat about those two subjects I ask if the read any of the forums. Frequently they have no idea what I am talking about. I have never met anyone who said they were a regular poster.

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Go to men's room.
Corner stall.
Tap your foot.
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i thought thats how to identify a republican, i am so confused.

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As a republican I'm greatly offended by your "joke". Larry Craig was railroaded, never had the opportunity to defend himself from this scurrilous accusation. If it had happened to a democrat you would would be up in arms over the violations of his rights. The only thing this very sad episode has taught us, is that foot tapping is how to identify a "Christian" Republican:)

Bada boom! I'm here all week, tip your waitress please...

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My avatar is the same as the card capper I use while playing. I have been identified as 2+2er LVM quite a few times due to that. No real code. Just saying 2+2 out loud is often enough to get some head turns.

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Last Sunday, Commerce 4/8. The guy in seat 5 is sitting there READING HEFAP between plays.

I start giving him grief. "Since I can see you haven't finished the book yet and your book isn't dog earred enough for you to be on a re-read, I guess you can stay." etc. He starts yapping about how Sklansky got his start at Commerce. I'm "oh, really...."

I offer, "I've heard they have a website." It was time to stop the jousting when he answered: "I didn't know that. I'll have to check it out."

So much for the bring your book to show your club membership theory.

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Its an estimate based on non-scientific measurements.

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So its useless?

Not to mention that 73.4385% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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I have this problem too. Plus at 51 I look fairly stupid saying "sup bro" to everyone I meet.

And I have no idea what the countersign is. Is it "sup bro" as well? Wouldn't anybody who is under 30 answer that anyway?



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The countersign is "All-county in 95" for what its worth.

See the original to find out why "15 tackles for a loss" would do also.

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I think I've got it. Next time I get c/r on the turn, I'll just look over at the guy and say, "sup bro?" Then I'll 3-bet his ass, and he'll hit his oesd or fd on the river. I'll say "nh", get up for a smoke break, and he'll know I'm 2p2. Sound about right?

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Yeah, it's not his fault he "takes a wide stance"

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Guys under 35 who look like they are attending a funeral until you ask to see their hand.

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I have this problem too. Plus at 51 I look fairly stupid saying "sup bro" to everyone I meet.

And I have no idea what the countersign is. Is it "sup bro" as well? Wouldn't anybody who is under 30 answer that anyway?

I typically just ask somebody who plays like they are thinking if they know 2+2. I try to do it quietly but one time a guy from across the table heard and said "2+2?, yeah I do that" fairly loud and it spawned a conversation in which more than half the table confessed to participating. And the one guy who was playing very poorly started mocking 2+2.

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I was thinking the same thoughts. Namely, how silly I might appear with a "sup bro"-hello at age 52, and how I'll interpret a "not much, bro" response.

Maybe someone should start a poll for the "Official Covert 2p2 Salutation."

Or, then again, maybe Snowball's right. I'll just spring for the #95 sup bro t-shirt and hope for the best.

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I think its -EV to identify yourself as a 2+2 regular at a live game.

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I have this problem too. Plus at 51 I look fairly stupid saying "sup bro" to everyone I meet.

And I have no idea what the countersign is. Is it "sup bro" as well? Wouldn't anybody who is under 30 answer that anyway?

I typically just ask somebody who plays like they are thinking if they know 2+2. I try to do it quietly but one time a guy from across the table heard and said "2+2?, yeah I do that" fairly loud and it spawned a conversation in which more than half the table confessed to participating. And the one guy who was playing very poorly started mocking 2+2.

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I was thinking the same thoughts. Namely, how silly I might appear with a "sup bro"-hello at age 52, and how I'll interpret a "not much, bro" response.

Maybe someone should start a poll for the "Official Covert 2p2 Salutation."

Or, then again, maybe Snowball's right. I'll just spring for the #95 sup bro t-shirt and hope for the best.

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I think its -EV to identify yourself as a 2+2 regular at a live game.

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Its pretty obvious to us who is what i call a 2+2 style player...aka your basic TAG player.

There are plenty of people who post here and don't play that style. Some are good, some are not.

And the live nits typically automatically downgrade anyone who plays or learned the game from a book/online. Against them, its probably +EV because you are exploiting their prejudices.

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Its pretty obvious to us who is what i call a 2+2 style player...aka your basic TAG player.

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there are lots of TAG players who dont read 2+2 or its books, and amazingly the majority of TAGs are exploitable - just because your a TAG doesn't mean your good at poker, its one of the first things I teach.

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There are plenty of people who post here and don't play that style. Some are good, some are not.

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I'd say less than 10% of the active 2+2ers are good players. Just because you post on 2+2 doesn't mean you know what your doing. Luckily for the other 90% there is a path to enlightenment

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OP - try this:

pretend to your answer your cell phone during the middle of a hand...when the dealer mucks your hand, yell into the phone, "dammit Dids, you just cost me the pot...I'll call you back after I rock the Grimstar". hang up the cell phone that was never actually on and peek out of your hoodie to see if anybody is paying attention...when you make eye contact with the interested player that obv is a 2p2er ask, "how many posts do you have?"....if the answer is less than 1200 put your ipod and headphones back on, go to another table, and try this routine again

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drop a sup bro if you think someone is 2p2. most 2p2ers know that as a "hello, im 2p2".

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Seriously, just ask. Contrary to popular opinion around here, publicly mentioning 2p2 isn't going to cause every fish who hears about it to suddenly go out and become a winning player.

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Most people won't even know what you're talking about.

I thought it was funny when I met Mason for the first time. He was wearing his 2p2 shirt right into the cardrooom. I chuckled a bit thinking of all the oversensitive 2p2'ers gasping in horror.

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OP - try this:

pretend to your answer your cell phone during the middle of a hand...when the dealer mucks your hand, yell into the phone, "dammit Dids, you just cost me the pot...I'll call you back after I rock the Grimstar". hang up the cell phone that was never actually on and peek out of your hoodie to see if anybody is paying attention...when you make mirrored lense contact with the interested player that obv is a 2p2er ask, "how many posts do you have?"....if the answer is less than 1200 put your ipod and headphones back on, go to another table, and try this routine again

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FYP

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I have dropped a "sup bro" in unknown card rooms and have received the countersign of "sup bro". I try to confirm the read by stacking 2 stacks of 2 dollar chips and then combining them into a single stack of 4 chips, which should be the universal 2+2 signal. It would be helpful to identify at a glance for table selection purposes.

I have been shocked who is a 2+2 active poster. I had one show up to a home game that I advertised on Craigs list.

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I sat down at my table, looked around, recognized Snowball from the L.A. meetup pics, gave him a nod, he gave me a nod, and that was that.

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It sounds like this method of ID'ing 2+2ers omits women. I mean, if I, in the highly unlikely event that I would even speak like this, say, "sup, bro" to someone, what is his response supposed to be? (And keep it clean!) [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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My avatar is the same as the card capper I use while playing. I have been identified as 2+2er LVM quite a few times due to that. No real code. Just saying 2+2 out loud is often enough to get some head turns.

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How 'bout "the guy who's always at TI that everybody knows named Michael"? You're not hard to spot.

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I usually will ask them if they know Orlando Salazar

Or try paging Brandi Rose over the intercom and see who at your table reacts.