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Irish Mafia 10-16-2007 05:17 PM

KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
Villain is "Im2Fast". Laggy, spewy, 27/20/3.6, and all-around pretty bad imo. I think he views me as quite aggro. He is known to pull some weird moves. What should I be doing on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $521.05
BTN: $1,175.50
SB: $1,016
Hero (BB): $1,129
UTG: $1,285.80
MP: $1,057

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO calls $10, BTN calls $10, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $50

Flop: ($135) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $110</font>, BTN calls $110

Turn: ($355) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero is clueless, freezes and checks, intending to CRAI???

jfish 10-16-2007 05:24 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
definitely check vs that clown.

Irish Mafia 10-16-2007 05:35 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
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definitely check vs that clown.

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with intentions to raise, yes?

jfish 10-16-2007 05:36 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
depends how much he bets, but probably.

Irish Mafia 10-16-2007 05:39 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
Villaim bets $175.

jfish 10-16-2007 05:40 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
hmmm, call and check.

Irish Mafia 10-16-2007 05:44 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
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hmmm, call and check.

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Reasoning for just calling?

jfish 10-16-2007 05:44 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
cos that bet size is suspicious, you are 120bb deep and he can have lots of strong hands here that give you 0-5% equity when you get it in.

Irish Mafia 10-16-2007 05:48 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
whats your plan on the river after just flatting? don't you expect him to fire most rivers?

jfish 10-16-2007 05:50 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
probably c/fing most rivers because i think he either has something that wants to protect its equity (weak 1 pair hand, possibly with a weak redraw) or something that has you killed and is trying to induce.

jfish 10-16-2007 05:50 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
but i have been way off on reads before!!!

Irish Mafia 10-16-2007 05:51 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
also you interpret a bigger bet on turn as a weaker hand?

jfish 10-16-2007 05:53 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
lol maybe, i dont think a psb is weak.

Pasterbator 10-16-2007 05:54 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
ive never played this guy, but what about betting 200 and instacalling a push from 68s/54s/58s/97 type hands.

Also, i assume the CO is a big donkey bc hes 50BB deep and open limped. Shouldnt the big aggro button be iso-raising him with hands like 89/78 and the likes?

If he views you as very aggro and hes aggro bad, i'd like to make him shove over my obvious two barrel.

jfish 10-16-2007 05:56 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
i like that too

Pasterbator 10-16-2007 05:57 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
im having trouble putting sentences together today.

So in case what i just said didn't make any sense:

Basically, i think hes way more likely to iso-raise with 89/connecting type hands than with 97/86/58s (which he is limping along) whether its right or wrong.

Does that still sound retarded? Idk, the more i type this out, the more wrong i feel. BC if hes limping the hands i said, hes probably also limping smaller connectors like 56 67.

Whatever. Poker is hard. Thats why i bet/call and blame variance when he has the nutssss/sucks out.

Irish Mafia 10-16-2007 06:33 PM

Re: KK in the BB w/ a couple of limpers in front
 
Yeah, well at the time - b/c he has a PFR% of 20 or so, I figured he would've raised w/ 55/77/66, so I wasn't particularly scared of a set. Although 2-pair is possible too. I think he's bad enough to even have a J in this spot.

I probably should've bet-called. I probably took the worst line. I checked, he bet $175, and I raised to $500 - he shoved quite quickly and I called the rest off.

9h8h him - gg.


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