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WizardAce 10-15-2007 02:33 PM

BB/100
 
what do you think is a good BB/100 winning rate for a good NL middle limit player on average??

whorasaurus 10-15-2007 02:45 PM

Re: BB/100
 
400 babies

Praetor 10-15-2007 02:48 PM

Re: BB/100
 
all of them

tozzy 10-15-2007 02:50 PM

Re: BB/100
 
-0.2PTBB

stackingboxes 10-15-2007 02:59 PM

Re: BB/100
 
3-4 would be pretty darn good if u 6+ table

lol this is prob gonna be the only post that won't be making fun of u

WizardAce 10-15-2007 03:05 PM

Re: BB/100
 
no problem as far as i am on the winning side ...

jfish 10-15-2007 03:34 PM

Re: BB/100
 
6

G_Dollaz 10-15-2007 04:13 PM

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6 is pretty [censored] good in this day and age. Seabeast is the only person I've seen post proof of running @ 6 while multitabling over a large sample (I consider multitabling 10+ tables). I'm sure there are a couple others but they're few and far between. 4 is very solid for 12 tabling.

Yeti 10-15-2007 04:21 PM

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I consider multitabling 10+ tables

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haha

what are your thoughts on polygamy?

pdoran10 10-15-2007 04:24 PM

Re: BB/100
 
yeah i was loling at multi tabling being defined at 10+ tables too. jesus god man. i know plenty of people do it, but i don't think its at all standard.

tuckercat 10-15-2007 04:33 PM

Re: BB/100
 
10+ tabling is not standard for midstakes cash game play. also if you have a 6+ winrate 10 tabling, you are a midstakes god... to answer the original question, if you can have a winrate between 2-4 you are doing well.

G_Dollaz 10-15-2007 04:34 PM

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I consider multitabling 10+ tables

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haha

what are your thoughts on polygamy?

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yeah i was loling at multi tabling being defined at 10+ tables too. jesus god man. i know plenty of people do it, but i don't think its at all standard.

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lol. how many tables do most of you guys play these days, I still play 11-12, my MT ratio is above 9.5, I thought that was still pretty much the norm....

AbreuTime 10-15-2007 04:39 PM

Re: BB/100
 
1) I want to see a 450K sample of someone running at 6ptbb 10 tabling or it's not possible.
2) people move up before then
3) is it possible though?
4) yeah, I'll bet you I could do it.
5) ok I'll need an escrow, and it would have to be big enough to be worth my while
6) f that. Who cares.

Yeti 10-15-2007 04:45 PM

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lol. how many tables do most of you guys play these days, I still play 11-12, my MT ratio is above 9.5, I thought that was still pretty much the norm....

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it isn't and never has been.

Yeti 10-15-2007 04:46 PM

Re: BB/100
 
abreu vnh

WizardAce 10-15-2007 05:24 PM

Re: BB/100
 
could start a new thread to ask on the average multi table ratio for good winning poker players (4BB/100) [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

JKratzer 10-15-2007 05:26 PM

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abreu vnh

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rand 10-15-2007 05:40 PM

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2. 4-6, if you are asking this you should be happy with 2-4 though

G_Dollaz 10-15-2007 05:48 PM

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lol. how many tables do most of you guys play these days, I still play 11-12, my MT ratio is above 9.5, I thought that was still pretty much the norm....

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it isn't and never has been.

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I sure thought it was back on party when the games were softer and everyone was running @ 6+....

MatthewRyan 10-15-2007 05:56 PM

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6 is pretty [censored] good in this day and age. Seabeast is the only person I've seen post proof of running @ 6 while multitabling over a large sample (I consider multitabling 10+ tables). I'm sure there are a couple others but they're few and far between. 4 is very solid for 12 tabling.

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12 tabling seems like a bad idea. Also, I have 5.7ptbb over 100k hands w/n lsat 4 months. 6 is def doable

ahnuld 10-15-2007 06:04 PM

Re: BB/100
 
yeah my last 60k hands at 5/10 have been 5.1ptbb playing 8-11 tables. Pretty sure if I cut down to 6 tables and played 2-4 or 3-6 6-7pt/bb per hundred would be sustainable.

Ship Ship McGipp 10-15-2007 06:15 PM

Re: BB/100
 
i think my last 100k hands at 5-10 my wr is like .18

HustlerLA 10-15-2007 06:23 PM

Re: BB/100
 
I would be more interested in getting a poll of how many tables people play? I feel like I can keep track of how each player plays with 2 tables and thats it. If I am 3+ tables then I have to go with lines that should be optimal based on a player's PAHUD/pt stats. Comments?

fringsrache 10-15-2007 06:27 PM

Re: BB/100
 
8 tables is my maximum. but i also play on sites with [censored]/fast software.

HustlerLA 10-15-2007 06:37 PM

Re: BB/100
 
SO with 8 tables you make plays soley based on PTstats and regulars' images? I am not expected to notice how seat 2 on table 7 is playing right?

AceCR9 10-15-2007 06:45 PM

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winna

G_Dollaz 10-15-2007 06:57 PM

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SO with 8 tables you make plays soley based on PTstats and regulars' images? I am not expected to notice how seat 2 on table 7 is playing right?

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You are supposed to notice this. Maybe you wouldn't have as good of a read as you would if you were only 4-8 tabling, but you're definitely still supposed to have reads....

G_Dollaz 10-15-2007 07:01 PM

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6 is pretty [censored] good in this day and age. Seabeast is the only person I've seen post proof of running @ 6 while multitabling over a large sample (I consider multitabling 10+ tables). I'm sure there are a couple others but they're few and far between. 4 is very solid for 12 tabling.

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12 tabling seems like a bad idea. Also, I have 5.7ptbb over 100k hands w/n lsat 4 months. 6 is def doable

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12 tabling is where it's @!!! No, seriously though, maybe I'm more concerned w/ my hourly than my ptbb/100, idk if that's a good thing/bad thing, whatever.... I honestly thought most everyone who was playing for a living in midstakes was playing 10+ tables. I stand corrected

LucidDream 10-15-2007 07:02 PM

Re: BB/100
 
im pretty sure i could maintain 6 at 2/4 4-6 tabling over a large sample...don't want to stay at 2/4 long enough to find out though.

GoldenIP 10-16-2007 11:08 AM

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I consider multitabling 10+ tables

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haha

what are your thoughts on polygamy?

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Yeti - you always crack me up. I need to ninja-edit my OOT thread response to 3 2+2ers I'd like to meet IRL.

futuredoc85 10-16-2007 11:12 AM

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6 is pretty [censored] good in this day and age. Seabeast is the only person I've seen post proof of running @ 6 while multitabling over a large sample (I consider multitabling 10+ tables). I'm sure there are a couple others but they're few and far between. 4 is very solid for 12 tabling.

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12 tabling seems like a bad idea. Also, I have 5.7ptbb over 100k hands w/n lsat 4 months. 6 is def doable

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12 tabling is where it's @!!! No, seriously though, maybe I'm more concerned w/ my hourly than my ptbb/100, idk if that's a good thing/bad thing, whatever.... I honestly thought most everyone who was playing for a living in midstakes was playing 10+ tables. I stand corrected

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you're a [censored] beast though dude to play the way you do on 12 tables. i cant go over 8 at 2/4 and at 5/10 i will only play more than 6 if aquama is playing more than 6

mce86 10-17-2007 01:22 AM

Re: BB/100
 
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1) I want to see a 450K sample of someone running at 6ptbb 10 tabling or it's not possible.
2) people move up before then
3) is it possible though?
4) yeah, I'll bet you I could do it.
5) ok I'll need an escrow, and it would have to be big enough to be worth my while
6) f that. Who cares.

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if u were winning that good, youd move up way before 400K hands

nuggetz87 10-17-2007 01:31 AM

Re: BB/100
 
same fdoc, i can play 8 when i'm comfortable with the game and 6 if not.

KingDan 10-17-2007 01:38 AM

Re: BB/100
 
multitabling is played out, playing 4 or less tables and just [censored] on people is where its at now.

G_Dollaz 10-17-2007 02:14 AM

Re: BB/100
 
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multitabling is played out, playing 4 or less tables and just [censored] on people is where its at now.

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lol, no. I'd much rather 12 table and run @ 4 than 4 table and run @ 7, at least @ my level....

jfish 10-17-2007 02:25 AM

Re: BB/100
 
i wish i was able to 12 table at 4ptbb, thats sick.

DJ Sensei 10-17-2007 05:38 AM

Re: BB/100
 
hunting gambler-whales on a few tables of 10/20+ is wayyy better than multitable grinding msnl against 4 2+2 TAGLAG clones and 1 30/8/1 "fish". winrate is better, too, but it'll mainly make you enjoy life more.

KeanuReaver 10-17-2007 06:32 AM

Re: BB/100
 
i wish i was able to 12 table period
i play 4 tables and my career winrate NL200+ is 6ptbb/100. thats only over around 150k hands though, i moved to NL not that long ago

G_Dollaz 10-17-2007 07:04 AM

Re: BB/100
 
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hunting gambler-whales on a few tables of 10/20+ is wayyy better than multitable grinding msnl against 4 2+2 TAGLAG clones and 1 30/8/1 "fish". winrate is better, too, but it'll mainly make you enjoy life more.

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Ok, here's my thinking on it: I have the same amount of money in play if I'm 12 tabling the 2/4 or if I'm 2-3 tabling the 10/20. The caliber of player @ the 2/4 is much lower than it is @ the 10/20. 12 tabling the 2/4 the long run gets here much faster than it would playing maybe what, 20k hands/month @ the 10/20? I don't forsee running above 4ptbb/100 @ the 10/20+ certainly. Don't get me wrong, I respect your opinion a great deal as a poster here which is why I'm trying to figure out where I'm wrong. If I was beating the 25/50 it'd be a different story, but I just feel as if playing so few hands would lead to a # of breakeven months along the way, no? I mean even w/ a 3.5-4ptbb/100 winrate over a large sample (hundreds of thousands of hands) I've gone on MANY 20k hand breakeven stretches along the way.

That being said, I'm going on vacation for the next 11 days and will only have my laptop, so I'll be 6 tabling the 3/6 and the 5/10 here and there, we'll see how that works out. Maybe I'll run good, move up, and then I'll be the whale @ the 10/20 and you'l get to take all my money, lol.

KeanuReaver 10-17-2007 07:07 AM

Re: BB/100
 
i dunno
i've seen some pretty awful 10/20 tables


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