Main Event-- has the sport jumped the shark??
 

I was utterly disgusted watching the final two episodes of this year's main event. and I'm not sure what i was more disgusted by: the quality of behavior or the quality of play.

On the former, Hahvid Khan is bad enough, but Jerry Yang's constant prayers were way over the top, and so what if they were answered? But lee Watkinson's wife did the same thing! Listen-- Poker Gods and beseeching them are one thing-- bringing the Big Guy into it goes way beyond the pale.

as to the play, wow. childs laying down Queens seemed bad at the time when we didn't know what Yang had-- watching that table made it even worse.

And counting Scotty's implosion just before the final table, i counted three different players who went all-in for their tournament lives on draws. with millions of chips. Unreal.

Watkinson's play wasn't the worst thing i ever saw-- he had to assume Yang had something worse than A7 given the situation-- but again, when you see Yang dominating with all those chips, why even try with at best a 60-40 advantage when you know he will call??

The whole thing was virtually unwatchable-- lacked the class of hachem and danneman; the intrigue of farha vs. Moneymaker; the genuine spirit of David Williams and greg raymer (and doesn't Arieh's trashing of raymer seem mild compared to what we see now??) i guess jamie Gold was the turning point, but I sure don't like what I see. and oh yeah-- all the full Tilt/Poker Stars dressed in black was pretty depressing too.

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no

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Thanks for starting another worthless thread.

p.s. You know nothing about poker.

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Oh-- and you know everything? LOL

I'm just telling you what i thought-- the play was lousy, the personalities worse. And if you don't think that could impact things, well tell me what the world would have been like had Moneymaker been knocked out and harrington (a great player and person, by the way) had beaten Farha?

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lacked the class of hachem and danneman

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I chuckled.

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chark is hongry...

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Watkinson's play wasn't the worst thing i ever saw-- he had to assume Yang had something worse than A7 given the situation--

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I think he shoves there because he wants a better but not powerful hand (22-TT or AJ - A8) to fold.

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i counted three different players who went all-in for their tournament lives on draws. with millions of chips. Unreal.

ZOMG!

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i counted three different players who went all-in for their tournament lives on draws. with millions of chips. Unreal.

ZOMG!

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Norman Chad really deserves a lot of credit for giving us one of the best ways to identify a bad poker player. Albeit, not quite in the way he intended to.

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i counted three different players who went all-in for their tournament lives on draws. with millions of chips. Unreal.

ZOMG!

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Norman Chad really deserves a lot of credit for giving us one of the best ways to identify a bad poker player. Albeit, not quite in the way he intended to.

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It depends. Often it's correct to go all-in on a draw for thousands of chips, but for millions of chips? Come on.

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i counted three different players who went all-in for their tournament lives on draws. with millions of chips. Unreal.

ZOMG!

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Norman Chad really deserves a lot of credit for giving us one of the best ways to identify a bad poker player. Albeit, not quite in the way he intended to.

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That and "raising chips".

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I chuckled.

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Are we talking 05 Hachem or current Hachem?

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i counted three different players who went all-in for their tournament lives on draws. with millions of chips. Unreal.

ZOMG!

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Norman Chad really deserves a lot of credit for giving us one of the best ways to identify a bad poker player. Albeit, not quite in the way he intended to.

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It depends. Often it's correct to go all-in on a draw for thousands of chips, but for millions of chips? Come on.

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If someone offers you 10000:1 odds, you take it!

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We need more Humberto. i believe that means chark in spanish.

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chaaaaaaaaaark

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chark is hongry...

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lol

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I enjoyed the entire WSOP series.

I thought they picked good hands to spotlight. I liked the commentators. I'm not such a fan of the personal stories, but I could tolerate them.

And as for the antics at the final table, I thought they behaved like people playing for huge sums of money the likes of which they'd never imagined possible before getting to that final table where the blinds were big enough and the stacks even enough that it could have gone any number of ways. At some point the end of a tournament boils down to aggression and luck. And it was nice that the most aggressive ended up getting the most lucky. Imagine that.

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I haven't watched the ME since Raymer one. I simply can't stand the way espn does the show, all-in, all-in, all-in. No running chip counts, and sometimes it only shows half a hand.

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lacked the class of hachem and danneman

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"pass the sugar" *** slams cards w/ nut flush ***

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I found the final two shows unwatchable as well. Hachem's supporters ushered in the overzealous patriotic spirit to the final table, which ESPN chose to emphasize. That combined with the constant prayer had me finding something else to watch.

Simply put, real poker fans will have to go elsewhere for their poker shows. Real poker ability or strategy are primarily ignored. We are not the target audience for ESPN's WSOP shows.

ESPN, as you know, will re-air these during their many holes in their schedules over their 'family of networks.'
Therefore, their main goal is to make it interesting for the typical TV surfer, not for the aspiring poker players.

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lol @ Yang not letting the South African dude kiss his picture

"They're my kids..."

I don't think the SA dude was going to use tounge, but whatever.

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We need more Humberto. i believe that means gay in spanish.

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fyp

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lol at calling poker a "sport"

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I found the final two shows unwatchable as well. Hachem's supporters ushered in the overzealous patriotic spirit to the final table, which ESPN chose to emphasize. That combined with the constant prayer had me finding something else to watch.

Simply put, real poker fans will have to go elsewhere for their poker shows. Real poker ability or strategy are primarily ignored. We are not the target audience for ESPN's WSOP shows.

ESPN, as you know, will re-air these during their many holes in their schedules over their 'family of networks.'
Therefore, their main goal is to make it interesting for the typical TV surfer, not for the aspiring poker players.

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you do realize..

this is real poker players playing a real poker tournament. regardless of how you assess their skill level. next years final table will have similar players at it.

keep complaining on this and other internet message boards.

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Yang showed us what happens when you take the saying "Shove and pray" literally.
Taking about religious fanatics...

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lol

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This has to be in the running for the photo of the year award. Too bad most of the posters wouldn't recognize the original shot.

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Aaaaaaayyyyyyy! ^^^^

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lol

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This. Is. Classic.

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The main event is all about who gets the luckiest, not who plays the best. Most of the contestants, especially Khan, Yang, and Humberto act like classless morons. Penis Creamus out.

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This has to be in the running for the photo of the year award. Too bad most of the posters wouldn't recognize the original shot.

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Wasn't that the Fonz?

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I reakon lets have a 100k buy-in no limit tourney where players start of quite deep stacked with 100k in chips. That way the winner would most likely be a decent player, rather than having more 'Jamie Golds' and 'Jerry Yangs'. Then lets dedicate a whole channel to 24-7 WSOP coverage with no lame personal feel-good stories on the players, coz we want to watch poker not 60 minutes. Also, don't forget to replace to commentators with Gabe.
...I think that would make for better viewing (well maybe not 24/7 coverage)

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am i the only one who finds it hysterical that someone going by the name PenisCreamus would call anyone else classless?
-t

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This has to be in the running for the photo of the year award. Too bad most of the posters wouldn't recognize the original shot.

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Wasn't that the Fonz?

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Yes, the original photo was a still of the Fonz from the series Happy Days. This was where the term "jumping the shark" comes from. In the episode, Fonz jumps a shark while skiing.

I think the WSOP has become less about playing good poker and more about getting face time.

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It has.
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