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sMethod 10-15-2007 03:12 AM

KK turns an ace.
 
No history with opponent, 16 hands total i think, I know I know I need to make make more pf 10-12 bet more on the flop 15-20, I dont know why I keep making this mistake of under betting.
As played is this turn bet a spew?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $98.50
UTG: $122.05
CO: $120.70
BTN: $98.50
SB: $98.05

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, SB calls $6

Flop: ($18) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, SB calls $14

Turn: ($46) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, SB calls $25

River: ($96) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $25</font>, Hero folds

Results: $96 Pot ($2 Rake)
SB mucked and WON $94 (+$46 NET)

Speedlimits 10-15-2007 03:26 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
snap that river

sMethod 10-15-2007 03:32 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
This cant be a good call on the river can it?

If this is a clear is call for all of you I need to completely rework my river game because iv never called a bet like this in my life.

oli1980 10-15-2007 03:34 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
Turn is a feeler bet I would say. So I def call this. But what hand would make such a bet on the river again? I think you are bet and I fold river but I don't know if that is good.

RockRattler 10-15-2007 04:05 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
how do you feel about checking behind on turn and calling a riverbet?

It allows us to keep the pot small and might induce a bluff on the river.

oli1980 10-15-2007 04:13 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
Oh sorry! I misread the action! That is spew. Eighter bet big on the turn as a bluff ( I thought he bet) or check behind call any river as a bluffcatcher.

Speedlimits 10-15-2007 04:24 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
the turn bet is for value not a bluff.

sMethod 10-15-2007 05:10 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
What kind of hand can I put my opponent on that call a 3 bet preflop and then called a raise on the flop thats not beating me by this river.

Turn is a mix of value, protection, and control because with a river like that I'm checking behind.

rberg 10-15-2007 05:59 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
i like. nh

Shizzle12345 10-15-2007 06:07 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
Fgators in that house.....
dude you get sick odds, snapcall.

yawak 10-15-2007 06:22 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
Good fold

The only hands you beat are bluffs. I doubt he is value betting worse 1 pair hands.

pdoran10 10-15-2007 06:24 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
regardless of the sick odds that you have i really doubt we are beating like any hand villain shows up with and bets river with here.

ManChild 10-15-2007 06:42 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
main draw hit, back door draw hit, ace hit...... people who are saying snap call because of odds, you are not good that often here against an unknown. fold

Shizzle12345 10-15-2007 06:44 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
oh yean indeed you dont even have QQ beat, fold then i guess.

saal13 10-15-2007 07:43 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
NH, you beat nothing but a bluff. There's a straight, flush, plenty of two pair hands and any A in his range that beat you.

rapidacid 10-15-2007 07:58 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
[ QUOTE ]
What kind of hand can I put my opponent on that call a 3 bet preflop and then called a raise on the flop thats not beating me by this river.

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He didn't call a raise on the flop. Raise more preflop. Bet more on the turn. Fold river. Looks like exactly 88.

Flyckten 10-15-2007 08:23 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
[ QUOTE ]
oh yean indeed you dont even have QQ beat, fold then i guess.

[/ QUOTE ]

Um, that's the hand he has beat...

Hard spot, but it seems that any hand besides lower pockets have you beat. Good fold, even though I would call and regret it later [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

viper930 10-15-2007 08:29 AM

Re: KK turns an ace.
 
[ ] hero's hand is good more than 1 out of 5 times


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