Stack off with tp2k?
 

No reads on villain and i hadnt notice any pot button mashing by him up to now, should i stack off with tp2k in this strange hand?


Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $86.80
MP: $69
Hero (CO): $102.25
BTN: $177.55
SB: $70.40
BB: $104.10

MP posts $1
Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $1, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.50</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.50, MP folds

Flop: ($13.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $37.50</font>, Hero?

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

nah let this one go. the board is really dry and hes c/r'ed you. let him have this one and make a note on it.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

my own thoughts r that i shouldve stacked off because its not often sum1 is gonna limp call with aj,queens, kings or aces and i dont c y he would play a set so fast on this board (i also think he couldve limp called with junky jacks and flop two pair). So, i beat a mental jack and a pure bluff, I just hate stacking off in a small pot with such a weak holding and no reads - do u guys call?

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

call, get it in on pretty much any turn

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

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call, get it in on pretty much any turn

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ya, i agree that calling to stack off is better than shoving since he still has rope to hang himself, but is this def a spot to stack off? I feel like im too nitty in these spots so i wanted to c if it is clear that i should felt my hand.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

Fold, make note. I don't think it's very close.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

easy fold

this is a set almost like always

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Fold, make note. I don't think it's very close.

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not disagreeing but what do u put him on that hed play this way that beats us (i just have trouble seeing sets and even two pairs going nut aggro on such a dry flop)? *also, this is a pretty good flop to bluff c/r.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

It's true that it's a nice flop to bluff-checkraise and there is a decent chance it's a bluff. But the Villian is unknown. Sets make up a large part of his holdings - limp UTG/call raise is usually low pocket pairs I find but I wouldn't discount an overpair or AJ either. If he's doing this with air or something like 55 and you call it's unlikely he'll bluff off the rest of it on the turn after you commit that much of your stack because it doesn't look like you're going anywhere. But if he has you beat you pay off and you're drawing slim to this range of hands. I like to get a read before stacking off is this kind of situation. Maybe that's a bit weak.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

call/call

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

call. stack off turn

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It's true that it's a nice flop to bluff-checkraise and there is a decent chance it's a bluff. But the Villian is unknown. Sets make up a large part of his holdings - limp UTG/call raise is usually low pocket pairs I find but I wouldn't discount an overpair or AJ either. If he's doing this with air or something like 55 and you call it's unlikely he'll bluff off the rest of it on the turn after you commit that much of your stack because it doesn't look like you're going anywhere. But if he has you beat you pay off and you're drawing slim to this range of hands. I like to get a read before stacking off is this kind of situation. Maybe that's a bit weak.

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i dont think eliminating aj and overpairs from his range completely is right i just highly doubt he would limp call with them.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

It's true that they're a fairly small part of an unknown Villians range but I've seen it happen many times. If you're behind you're way behind and stacking off and if you're ahead it's likely he'll shut down - that's the main reason I like a fold and remember it against an unknown. I don't think your average NL100 player check-raise bluffs for almost half of his stack very much.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

Good fold. I think he hit gd here - either set/2P!

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

very read dependant, depends on what kinda image you want for you accually playing style. if you dont wanna get cr bluffed from others at the table and plan on stealling alot in the future id go ahead and give him action this session and be wary of any more chk raises from non multi tablers at the table.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

i prolly shove,this is full tilt low stakes after all so i wouldnt be surprised if he had like 77 or 88 or maybe J10.

Re: Stack off with tp2k?
 

I fold given I have no history with this villain, and I have a marginal hand that usually has no more than 25% equity if I happen to be behind (which is most of the time).