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BuddyQ 10-14-2007 02:50 PM

NYC\'s First Casino???
 
"A Native American tribe is set to drop a bombshell bid to build and run NYC's first casino — a $1.4 billion gaming palace at Aqueduct Racetrack - a million-square-foot casino with 10,500 slots, 350 gaming tables and 12,000 employees. A 1,200-room hotel ...."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007...on_casino.html

petp_the_greek 10-14-2007 03:05 PM

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oh man, and not too far from where i live....this could be interesting

Dima2000123 10-14-2007 03:08 PM

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What about poker there?

Teh_Jesus 10-14-2007 03:12 PM

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this has exciting and interesting implications

LiveNow 10-14-2007 03:19 PM

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will it be 18+?

AntonHeat 10-14-2007 03:24 PM

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This would be very good for NYC if they get poker going

KSOT 10-14-2007 03:25 PM

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Not good for the city IMO.

LiveNow 10-14-2007 03:27 PM

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Not good for the city IMO.

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Dima2000123 10-14-2007 03:45 PM

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Agreed, though I won't care if I could play poker legally close to home.

shaniac 10-14-2007 04:11 PM

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

GiantWalleye 10-14-2007 04:52 PM

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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place?? I have no intention of even ever visiting. [censored] that overpopulated concrete zoo.

LiveNow 10-14-2007 04:56 PM

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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place?? I have no intention of even ever visiting. [censored] that overpopulated concrete zoo.

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why the [censored] would anyone want to be anywhere near northern Minnesota?

GiantWalleye 10-14-2007 04:59 PM

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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place?? I have no intention of even ever visiting. [censored] that overpopulated concrete zoo.

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why the [censored] would anyone want to be anywhere near northern Minnesota?

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Good, very good, please stay away. We like it how it is.

kickpushcoast 10-14-2007 05:01 PM

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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place?? I have no intention of even ever visiting. [censored] that overpopulated concrete zoo.

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why the [censored] would anyone want to be anywhere near northern Minnesota?

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Good, very good, please stay away. We like it how it is.

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ok we will, you can have all those obscenely hot chicks to yourself

GiantWalleye 10-14-2007 05:06 PM

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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place?? I have no intention of even ever visiting. [censored] that overpopulated concrete zoo.

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why the [censored] would anyone want to be anywhere near northern Minnesota?

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Good, very good, please stay away. We like it how it is.

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ok we will, you can have all those obscenely hot chicks to yourself

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Sounds good to me, there are alot believe it or not.

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BuddyQ 10-14-2007 05:12 PM

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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place??

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If ya gotta ask, Gotham ain't for you.

EWS87 10-14-2007 05:30 PM

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i bet walleye be scared of getting mugged by every black person he saw in nyc

unfortunately for you, your duck shootin skills would do you no good here

LiveNow 10-14-2007 05:39 PM

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New york new york, where my troopers at, where my hustlasss, where my boosta's at?

eviljeff 10-14-2007 05:57 PM

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Not good for the city IMO.

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yeah they'll be a bunch of [censored] weirdos everywhere

schundler 10-14-2007 06:02 PM

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yeah they'll be a bunch of [censored] weirdos everywhere

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lol

BuddyQ 10-14-2007 06:14 PM

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yeah they'll be a bunch of [censored] weirdos everywhere

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RickAstleyFan 10-14-2007 06:41 PM

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I vote yes.

Dima2000123 10-14-2007 06:54 PM

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

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Casinos are typically bad for the surrounding areas. Talk about individual responsibility and winning poker all you want, but reality on the ground next to casinos is often very depressing.

Donkey-Milker 10-14-2007 06:57 PM

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i'm in the UK... only been to NYC once..

but just realised... why isn't there a casino there already?

IvanXDurham 10-14-2007 07:06 PM

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It seems like it should have happened years ago, and not in some grandiose 'old timer' kind of way, i'm 24. But as a poker player with some sort of knowledge of competing business markets, I was surprised when I first found out there were no NY casinos close enough to AC to be competative. Now if this location is groundbreaking news for NY as far as legal gambling, I say it's probably due.

Bavid Denyamine 10-14-2007 09:50 PM

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well the casinos in AC sure fixed up that area

DesertCat 10-14-2007 10:03 PM

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

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Casinos are typically bad for the surrounding areas. Talk about individual responsibility and winning poker all you want, but reality on the ground next to casinos is often very depressing.

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I live next to a casino, and the entire area is wealthy and booming. Nothing depressing at all.

Nologo 10-14-2007 10:16 PM

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legal poker in NYC would be fantastic. NYC has about 50 millionaires per square foot, there's enormous amounts of money floating around here.

LonesomeFugitive 10-14-2007 10:49 PM

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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place?? I have no intention of even ever visiting. [censored] that overpopulated concrete zoo.

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why the [censored] would anyone want to be anywhere near northern Minnesota?

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Good, very good, please stay away. We like it how it is.

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ok we will, you can have all those obscenely hot chicks to yourself

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Sounds good to me, there are alot believe it or not.


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but in fairness, chicks you consider an 8 where you live to the rest of america are about a 6.

ReidDeCardes 10-14-2007 11:06 PM

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Not for nothin' but some of us were born in NYC and to us this is the way it is.

btw I would love a casino in NYC that had poker, not that Yonkers's Raceway crap.

NT! 10-14-2007 11:10 PM

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i kinda like how seedy the NYC poker scene already is. although mind you i have never sat through a robbery or a raid.

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LiveNow 10-15-2007 12:42 AM

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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place?? I have no intention of even ever visiting. [censored] that overpopulated concrete zoo.

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why the [censored] would anyone want to be anywhere near northern Minnesota?

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Good, very good, please stay away. We like it how it is.

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ok we will, you can have all those obscenely hot chicks to yourself

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Sounds good to me, there are alot believe it or not.


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but in fairness, chicks you consider an 8 where you live to the rest of america are about a 6.

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would you guys stfu already. he is allowed to prefer the sticks to the city and others are allowed to prefer the city to the sticks. nobody is right or wrong.

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you're wrong AFAIK

metsandfinsfan 10-15-2007 12:58 AM

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i doubt they will let it happen

traffic on the belt parkway would become more of a nightmare than it already is

Hiiiiiiii 10-15-2007 12:59 AM

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If they had a casino at the raceway it wouldn't mean [censored]. I would rather they had it in Southampton where I grew up. Do you understand how many fish there would be? I would move back home and play there everyday.

If they put a casino in Manhattan, now that would be a different story. I can't even begin to imagine how much more I would love this city!

*TT* 10-15-2007 01:31 AM

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Guys -

The chances of the Shinnecock getting Aqueduct is probably greater than 100:1 against. As per Congress a tribe may only open a casino on it's own ancestored sovereign land, they cannot purchase property as part of the compact with the state to relocate the casino. This ruling came in part to stop former NYS Governer Patacki who was trying to open 5 Indian casinos in up-state NY, Patacki was foiled just before stepping down from his post.

Recently Spitzer also tried by cutting a deal with the St. Regis Mohawks to run a casino at the Monticello Raceway. Only problem is since it's not sovereign land the Department of the Interior has to be willing to take the racetrack into trust for the Mowhawks and thats just not going to happen based on past results with the prior Governor.

Sadly I think this is really just a PR ploy to push congress into changing the Department of Interior regulations by using the threat of the Shinnecocks ruining the value of land in the Hamptons where so many politicians spend their holidays. Funny thing is that the Shinnecock's are not considered a legal tribe by the Dept of Interior yet so this all may be a moot conversation.

Sorry to be the wet blanket [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyone who wants to research this should Google Catskills Casino, we have discussed this numerous times in the B&M forum as well (not with the Shinnecock component of the story, but its all the same). The reason why the Governors are so gung-ho about Indian casinos is casinos are illegal in the state of NY and the law is highly unlikely to change, this is their attempt to back-door in the industry and perhaps pay off a few political debts at the same time without it costing them much int he way of political capital lost.

Hiiiiiiii 10-15-2007 01:33 AM

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Guys -

The chances of the Shinnecock getting Aqueduct is probably greater than 100:1 against. As per Congress a tribe may only open a casino on it's own ancestored sovereign land, they cannot purchase property as part of the compact with the state to relocate the casino. This ruling came in part to stop former NYS Governer Patacki who was trying to open 5 Indian casinos in up-state NY, Patacki was foiled just before stepping down from his post.

Recently Spitzer also tried by cutting a deal with the St. Regis Mohawks to run a casino at the Monticello Raceway. Only problem is since it's not sovereign land the Department of the Interior has to be willing to take the racetrack into trust for the Mowhawks and thats just not going to happen based on past results with the prior Governor.

Sadly I think this is really just a PR ploy to push congress into changing the Department of Interior regulations by using the threat of the Shinnecocks ruining the value of land in the Hamptons where so many politicians spend their holidays. Funny thing is that the Shinnecock's are not considered a legal tribe by the Dept of Interior yet so this all may be a moot conversation.

Sorry to be the wet blanket [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyone who wants to research this should Google Catskills Casino, we have discussed this numerous times in the B&M forum as well (not with the Shinnecock component of the story, but its all the same).

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Gobias Ind. 10-15-2007 04:23 AM

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

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Then where will they eat the hot dogs the 4th???

burningyen 10-15-2007 02:40 PM

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

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Casinos are typically bad for the surrounding areas. Talk about individual responsibility and winning poker all you want, but reality on the ground next to casinos is often very depressing.

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Have you been to Coney Island?

Dima2000123 10-16-2007 01:02 AM

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Not good for the city IMO.

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

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Casinos are typically bad for the surrounding areas. Talk about individual responsibility and winning poker all you want, but reality on the ground next to casinos is often very depressing.

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Have you been to Coney Island?

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Many times, my grandparents live there. Where are you going with this?


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