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$400 HU - Do I Miss Value?
POKERSTARS GAME #12620446745: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/10/14 - 10:47:01 (ET)
Table 'Meges III' 2-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: Milwaukee2 ($421 in chips) Seat 2: ASPoker8 ($531.25 in chips) ASPoker8: posts small blind $2 Milwaukee2: posts big blind $4 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ASPoker8 [9h Kh] ASPoker8: raises $8 to $12 Milwaukee2: raises $30 to $42 ASPoker8: calls $30 *** FLOP *** [6s 6d Kd] Milwaukee2: bets $62 ASPoker8: calls $62 *** TURN *** [6s 6d Kd] [As] Milwaukee2: bets $78 ASPoker8: calls $78 *** RIVER *** [6s 6d Kd As] [9s] Milwaukee2: checks ASPoker8: Its early in the match, hes being a little more aggro than I am. Hes trying to be the leader/aggressor etc etc Does anyone vbet here? Also, does anyone bet/call? I kind of wanted to bet a smallish weird amount and snapcall a shove, is that bad? |
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No, don't vbet. Bet/call is atrocious. You do realize that any A-x is ahead and will turbo call here right?
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That's pretty fancy for this early in a match
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No, don't vbet. Bet/call is atrocious. You do realize that any A-x is ahead and will turbo call here right? [/ QUOTE ] no i didnt realize that |
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I happily check. All this b/c stuff is confusing me.
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[ QUOTE ] No, don't vbet. Bet/call is atrocious. You do realize that any A-x is ahead and will turbo call here right? [/ QUOTE ] no i didnt realize that [/ QUOTE ] sarcasm? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No, don't vbet. Bet/call is atrocious. You do realize that any A-x is ahead and will turbo call here right? [/ QUOTE ] no i didnt realize that [/ QUOTE ] sarcasm? [/ QUOTE ] yes. Why would he ever have Ax here? I didn't think it made much sense for him to have Ax. |
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betting or checking is completely fine
bet calling is atrocious |
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explain to me what worse hands are calling this river? I mean your range of hands is pretty defined as a king or ace from his perspective. Yet, all this talk about betting river to induce bluffs is ridiculous when you are early in the match with little history.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No, don't vbet. Bet/call is atrocious. You do realize that any A-x is ahead and will turbo call here right? [/ QUOTE ] no i didnt realize that [/ QUOTE ] sarcasm? [/ QUOTE ] yes. Why would he ever have Ax here? I didn't think it made much sense for him to have Ax. [/ QUOTE ] You said he was being the aggressor, etc right so that means he's obviously 3-betting light I'm assuming. Are you saying A-x is not in this range? I would c-bet this flop a LOT if I were villain because it's basically the perfect flop to c-bet on. He could easily do it with A-x. Edit: With that said, if your sure he has K-x here, by all means value bet here as he's calling anything with K-x here as he prolly thinks your splitting. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No, don't vbet. Bet/call is atrocious. You do realize that any A-x is ahead and will turbo call here right? [/ QUOTE ] no i didnt realize that [/ QUOTE ] sarcasm? [/ QUOTE ] yes. Why would he ever have Ax here? I didn't think it made much sense for him to have Ax. [/ QUOTE ] You said he was being the aggressor, etc right so that means he's obviously 3-betting light I'm assuming. Are you saying A-x is not in this range? I would c-bet this flop a LOT if I were villain because it's basically the perfect flop to c-bet on. He could easily do it with A-x. [/ QUOTE ] Well yeah, of course, but is he really c/c'ing river with Ax instead of vbetting? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No, don't vbet. Bet/call is atrocious. You do realize that any A-x is ahead and will turbo call here right? [/ QUOTE ] no i didnt realize that [/ QUOTE ] sarcasm? [/ QUOTE ] yes. Why would he ever have Ax here? I didn't think it made much sense for him to have Ax. [/ QUOTE ] You said he was being the aggressor, etc right so that means he's obviously 3-betting light I'm assuming. Are you saying A-x is not in this range? I would c-bet this flop a LOT if I were villain because it's basically the perfect flop to c-bet on. He could easily do it with A-x. [/ QUOTE ] Well yeah, of course, but is he really c/c'ing river with Ax instead of vbetting? [/ QUOTE ] If I were in villains position with AQ, AJ or just any A-x where x isn't equal to two pair or w/e. I would check behind here a lot as I'd hate getting c/r here, plus, it gives my opponent the opportunity to bluff with K-x or random air that he floated with. I'm not saying I'd check 100% but I think you get what I mean. Also, read my edit from the last post. |
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re-read hand you're OOP yo
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re-read hand you're OOP yo [/ QUOTE ] I was saying if I was villain I would check river and let YOU bluff with random stuff and call with A-x. here's what I'm saying: obviously a value bet is surely good here as any K-x will look you up here. But the fact is that we're early in the match, we don't really know his range for 3-betting and stuff, I'd just check behind. |
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i would check. i like a bet more if the A comes on the river.
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shove ??
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How was your breakfast?
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betting or checking is completely fine bet calling is atrocious [/ QUOTE ] +1 |
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