2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

This was on 2 tables at the same time, so i got distracted and think i misplayed them both

Villain is 15/13/4.5, 21% went to sd, decent, tight reg

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1144.50
UTG+1: $1667
CO: $1233
Button: $1132
SB: $1441.50
Hero: $2324

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $30</font>, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($95, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $60</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $240</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($575, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $500</font>, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: $500 returned to Hero.

Here i think i made him fold something like JJ.Maybe even higher pp.
Check-call the turn representing fd and lead river?
He could check behind for pot control, but i still get value on the river...
This not the type of villain that will stack off on JJ here with almost 170 bb deep.Bet less on the turn maybe?

Results:
Final pot: $575


UTG is the same villain from the previous hand, UTG+1 is 19/12/4, 25% went to sd,also decent tight reg

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1420
UTG+1: $1562.75
CO: $1626.50
Button: $2195.25
Hero: $975
BB: $960.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $30</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($130, 4 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $90</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $230</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($680, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $715</font>, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: $715 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $680

Here i just didn't know what to do on the flop.Whether i shove or call, my hand is pretty transparent.On the turn i basically decided that i hope he has smaller set or small overpair that will put me on a combo draw and just shoved.
Do i give a free card in case he has fd himself and check?

Basically, i feel that i missed a lot of value on both hands.

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

1) looks fine
2) raise that [censored] flop

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

1. no he did not fold TT.
2. please raise the flop.

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

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1. no he did not fold TT.
2. please raise the flop.

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Oops, edited the OP on 1.I ment, JJ-QQ.

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

I would probably lead both of these,

as played on 1 there is not much you can do, some players just wont pay you off in big pots without the nuts, hand two, I think i would just 4bet the flop, cause anything you do looks super strong and you want to charge any draw

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

I lead with sets sometimes, but usually when we are HU with the pfr, i almost never lead on drawey boards into several opponents, cause it just looks superstrong and i was right next to the pfr both times, so hoped to sandwich some extra calls to his cbets.

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

well both these boards seem ideal to lead on to me. But I probably lead more than most people so I guess it depends

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

1 is fine

2 shove the flop, they might put you on combo draw or a fd

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

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2 shove the flop, they might have a combo draw

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Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

2: you do know how redic strong you look, right?

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

Yes, i butchered 2 more, no questions.
So, everybody agrees on shoving the flop?

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 

yah, i like a lead in hand one
since you did not you pretty much have to bet pretty big on the turn on that board so it's fine

in two, just shove flop and hope he puts you on a draw as has been reiterated numerous times