not happy with AP
 

In the news I read "UltimateBet and Absolute Poker now charge US PLAYERS ONLY cashier fees against your rake." So how much is this rake?
I am starting to lose interest and trust in Absolute as they are only giving me 24% of the 30% I was promised, and they have ignored my questioning of this practice.

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You don't mind all the other problems?

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yeah in the big absolute thread people are wonding if affilliates will stay neutral

i think affiliates should make their customers aware of the issues

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Can you post a link to that thread.

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aaok- I believe its actually 5% and party poker has done this for years [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] It sucks for everyone, but it isnt exactly how you put it.

you are getting 30% of 95% instead of 30% of 100% which is 28.5%

I could be VERY VERY VERY wrong here, and I will try to find out.

As far as staying neutral, it's hard because I asked one of the owners of Absolute and he denied everything. Someone I have spent alot of time with, met personally 3 times.

I have again fired an email to him with new information.

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Well as best as I can tell. Im getting 24% of rake on single tables not even 95% of 30%, and even if I was that was not the deal..
If they wanted to change the deal they should have given me the option to leave b4 they started short changing me.
I now just want to leave AP for ever.
All I want to know is can I send my rakeback to another poker site?

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aaok- I believe its actually 5% and party poker has done this for years [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] It sucks for everyone, but it isnt exactly how you put it.

you are getting 30% of 95% instead of 30% of 100% which is 28.5%

I could be VERY VERY VERY wrong here, and I will try to find out.

As far as staying neutral, it's hard because I asked one of the owners of Absolute and he denied everything. Someone I have spent alot of time with, met personally 3 times.

I have again fired an email to him with new information.

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well now they are being investigated
http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommi...ry.asp?show=10

i know u guys are in a tough spot

Re: not happy with AP
 

We are in a tough spot, and we are pulling Absolute Poker from our 2+2 ads for the time being. We'll have new banners up tomorrow.

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RR, I know you're in a tough spot. As a customer I would prefer you not do business with low-life scum like AP, but I also know there are existing agreements in place, and there will be other customers who would throw a [censored]-fit if you dropped AP.

Thanks for taking down the AP banner ads. For now, all I ask is you keep us updated on the situation.

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yeah i dont think you have to stop carry ap or anything
but i was thinking you should inform your customer via rakeupdate message what is going on

i think it is the right thing to do

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I think they should stop carrying AP. AP cheated and then lied repeatedly to the customers of rr. how on earth can they continue to send them business in good faith? but im not the one who would lose lots of $$ so its easy for me to say (and its the right thing to do) and I understand that.

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I wish it were that easy, we have alot of players that still play there and we don't want to burn any bridges with our current play base.

We have stopped advertising them on 2+2. Totally dropping them could cause problems in the future (As Absolute & UB are owned by the same company)

We are playing a wait and see game now

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I would like to go to a new poker site and I think I will try cake. Does anyone now if its easy to fund your account there? Alos is it posible to fund it from my rakeback account? or do i need to fund it throue another way first?

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They accept epassporte, which is usually pretty easy for US players

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Just to back up what RR says, I feel all non rb affiliates should stop promoting AP/UB immediately. The problem rb affiliates have is that if they don't send a player to them in 90 days they can be dropped from the rev share program. This means all of their players lose rakeback. Then what? RR pays out of their pocket? Making players aware of the issues is about the only way to not screw players that for some reason want to play at a site that steals.

Keep in mind that AP/UB has been stealing from rb players and affiliates that signed up before March 1st for about 8 months now too.

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aaok- I believe its actually 5% and party poker has done this for years [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] It sucks for everyone, but it isnt exactly how you put it.

you are getting 30% of 95% instead of 30% of 100% which is 28.5%

I could be VERY VERY VERY wrong here, and I will try to find out.

As far as staying neutral, it's hard because I asked one of the owners of Absolute and he denied everything. Someone I have spent alot of time with, met personally 3 times.

I have again fired an email to him with new information.

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well now they are being investigated
http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommi...ry.asp?show=10

i know u guys are in a tough spot

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That may be true but my math is correct and Im only getting %24 not %28.