Al Gore receives Nobel Peace Prize
 

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Hopefully now we'll all get some peace.

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Congradulations. I'm happy for him.

I hope this will lead to him throwing in his name for the next election. I'll take him over any candidate (other than Ron Paul, obviously). I feel he is a flat out good man, with good intentions, integrity, the world presence and international experience to bring the USA back to its status as one of the good nations, not the one everyone wants to hate. As a democrat, I doubt he values the same things I do with regards to limited government, but if its any republican (except Paul) versus Gore, I'll take the one I can trust, Gore.

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been hearing rumors about it for days - he bailed on a couple of Progressive events because of an event overseas -

the offical announcement is that he shares it with the intergovernmental panel on climate change for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundation for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.

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actually, given the a great number of there wars that are fought are fought over things like water and natural resources/food that are all endangered by global climate change, this is not too much of a stretch. Good for him -
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So for the 2nd time the Nobel Peace Prize is more of a showing that "this is how much we disagree with George W. Bush and how much we value notable American politicians who are known opponents of him".

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The Nobel foundation lost all it credibility when they awarded Yasser Arafat the peace prize in 1994. Al Gore should be embarrassed to be part of that club now.

What did he do to "deserve" it anyways?

Stu

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Seriously? I didn't think that award could get more worthless, but I was wrong.

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What did he do to "deserve" it anyways?

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Bombed Iraq.

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The Nobel foundation lost all it credibility when they awarded Yasser Arafat the peace prize in 1994. Al Gore should be embarrassed to be part of that club now.

What did he do to "deserve" it anyways?

Stu

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Yassar only won a 1/3 of it with the foreign/prime ministers of Israel winning the other two thirds -

man-made climate change will cause violent conflicts - by trying to fight that, we will prevent future wars over things like water scarcity, etc, etc -

RB

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Seriously? I didn't think that award could get more worthless, but I was wrong.

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maybe if they award it to GWB next year you can be wrong again [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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As this prize is pretty far from being a peace prize but a way of the norwrgian government of showing what policies they support that will not happen [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I thought the 97-prize that was handed out to an organization that works to ban landmines when that was the flavor of the year after Lady Diana died had topped it all, but that was merely the beginning.

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Frontrunners for 2008.... ahmedinJihad and Jong Il.

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Thank God for Al Gore or we wouldn't be able to have this discussion on this internet message board.

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Seriously? I didn't think that award could get more worthless, but I was wrong.

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maybe if they award it to GWB next year you can be wrong again [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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LOL! No chances at all! Not even an outsider.... he is not in the running!

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GORE!?!

I had my money on Limbaugh.

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The Nobel foundation lost all it credibility when they awarded Yasser Arafat the peace prize in 1994 . Al Gore should be embarrassed to be part of that club now.

What did he do to "deserve" it anyways?

Stu

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Does Henri Kissinger and 1972 ring a bell?
but seriously, Al Gore??????

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So you guys are saying Al Gore has not done good?

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So you guys are saying Al Gore has not done good?

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Al Gore is awesome. Without Myspace and midget porn, I may have a life today. And something about his BS movie makes my new GF all horny, cuz she's a flaming bedwetting treehugger, so he's done good by me.

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Good for Gore, he absolutely deserves the award. Global warming has been demonstrated over and over as a huge crisis that we are bringing upon ourselves and Gore has been a worldwide leader in the fight to stop it. On that basis, he clearly earned the award.

I'll conceed that the Nobel Prize committee was trying to make a political statement as well, but I don't see that as a bad thing. The number one obstacle to doing something about global warming is the myth among American conservatives that global warming isn't real. The sooner we can pound through their head the overwheliming evidence to the contrary, the better. The Nobel Prize is one of two awards recognized universally as a great achievement and hopefully this will expose more people to reality.

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So for the 2nd time the Nobel Peace Prize is more of a showing that "this is how much we disagree with George W. Bush and how much we value notable American politicians who are known opponents of him".

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There are few things that promote peace more than being a known opponent of George W. Bush.

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the myth among American conservatives that global warming isn't real.

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Believe it or not, the vast majority of American conservatives believe global warming exists. The problem for us lies in the alarmists, like Al Gore, who use inaccurate, intentionally misleading information to make people believe that THEY are the cause of global warming. It was recently ruled in an English court that Gore's movie is politically partisan has no less than 11 material inaccuracies. Furthermore, the fact that a man who preaches environmentalism, owns a house that takes up an un-Goldly amount of energy and jet-sets around the world in a gulfstream is very offputting to most people and exudes hypocrisy on every level.

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The Genocide in Rawanda has been linked to climate change.

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Seriously? I didn't think that award could get more worthless, but I was wrong.

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QFT

edit: And I'm a huge environmentalist.

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The Genocide in Rawanda has been linked to climate change.

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So has the genocide in Darfur by some U.N. moron errh I mean U.N. Secretary General.

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It was recently ruled in an English court that Gore's movie is politically partisan has no less than 11 material inaccuracies.

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"One of the most over-the-top spins came from the far right Heartland Institute, funded by tobacco and Big Oil, which issued a widely copied press release this week saying that "the British High Court properly recognized that Al Gore's movie is nine parts political propaganda and one part science."

There's just one problem: These are all lies, and the British Court said no such thing. In truth, the judge agreed with Gore and the film's thesis, and it is inconvenient for the Right to admit it. A review of what the judge actually wrote in his ruling proves it.

Here are the facts. A global warming denier, a British truckdriving father of two teens, sued to ban the showing of the film in the public schools. In a blow to the father, a High Court judge ruled that the film can be shown, but that teachers must emphasize to students that it's political, with a point of view. As the judge put it, "It is now common ground that it is not simply a science film - although it is clear that it is based substantially on scientific research and opinion - but that it is a political film."

There were some things in the film the father objected to, and the judge found that while the film was "broadly accurate" in its presentation of the cause and effect of climate change, there were some representations with which he took issue.

For example, the judge ruled that in the film Gore suggests that the drying of Lake Chad, the loss of Mount Kilimanjaro's snows and Hurricane Katrina may well have been caused by climate change, but the judge said the scientific community has yet to prove a direct link.

The judge also accepted the government's offer to rewrite some aspects of the teacher's study guide to reflect that some of the statements in the film are not 100% universally accepted.

This is really not that big a deal. Plenty of scientifically sound views are not yet 100% accepted by all scientists, as the process of scientific inquiry is always ongoing. And after all, there are even some credentialed scientists out there who still don't accept Darwinian evolution in the 21st century, for God's sake!

But get this: according to the FOX News website, the judge ruled that the film was accurate in "four main scientific hypotheses, each of which is very well supported by research published in respected, peer-reviewed journals." In particular, the judge agreed "that climate change is mainly attributable to man-made emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide ('greenhouse gases')." These are quotes from the judge.

The other three key points in the film the judge agreed with: "that global temperatures are rising and are likely to continue to rise, that climate change will cause serious damage if left unchecked, and that it is entirely possible for governments and individuals to reduce its impacts." Again, from the judge."

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I'll conceed that the Nobel Prize committee was trying to make a political statement as well, but I don't see that as a bad thing.

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When hasn't the Nobel Peace price been about making a political statement? Mother Theresa? Fairly certain that was too. I actually don't care that it's a political statement because it seems that politics is in the realm of someone who should a get a peace prize award. Gore's specific contributions to "peace" are the issue methinks.


As far as your statement about conservatives denying that global warming exists is just plain wrong. There's not a shred of evidence that the climate models are accurate in making predictions about climate change. There's not a shred of evidence that what governments are recommending and seeking to implement will change anything. It's clear though that it will cost people more money and there are special interests that will benefit a great deal and where their campaign contributions are directed.

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Gobbo, nothing in that link refutes what I said. The link itself is putting a spin on what was actually ruled in the courts: that the film had significant inaccuracies and that it has a political bias. That's why the judge ruled that when children view it, it has to be with a disclaimer.

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They should change the award's name to the "Worldwide Manipulation of Shortsightedness Contest".

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So you guys are saying Al Gore has not done good?

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He took the initiative in creating the Internet! That alone is worth a Nobel!!!

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He's done more than any other individual to make the reality of climate change an accepted fact in the minds of the common man, a well deserved award.

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Gobbo, nothing in that link refutes what I said. The link itself is putting a spin on what was actually ruled in the courts: that the film had significant inaccuracies and that it has a political bias. That's why the judge ruled that when children view it, it has to be with a disclaimer.

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No actually your statement is directly refuted. you stated 11 inaccuracies, in truth there are 9 debateable points. There is a world of difference between a point that cannot be established has 100% true and a lie. There is a difference between saying a red sock is blue and that men devoloped from a process of natural selection.

As far as most "conservatives" believing in global warming. How long has this been so for you? Less than 2 years, I would bet a fair amount on. For the last 2 decades the argument has been there is no proof of warming, and now like the "god of the gaps" theories, science has proven the rhetoric wrong and now the movement towards admitting warming, but not man made. For the record though within 6-12 months you will be spouting how global warming isn't even a bad thing.

O why, O why does humanity rather cling to their own ideolagy than truth. Climate change is not the greatest threat to humans, it is mankinds grip to their olivetrees in the face of reason.

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He took the initiative in creating the Internet! That alone is worth a Nobel!!!

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Anyone who continues to make such statements should immediately lose all credibility. Kinda like someone who recommends Drop Dead Fred as a good flick.

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He's done more than any other individual to make the reality of climate change an accepted fact in the minds of the common man, a well deserved award.

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What exactly does that have to do with the Nobel Peace Prize? (Assuming your statement is even correct, which IMO is not the case)

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Al Gore does not get Nobel Peace Prize; Nobel Peace Prize gets Al Gore'd.

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Jimmy Carter and Yasser Arafat... ya he's in good company.

I'm glad the noble peace prize has absolutely no politics involved whatsoever and is awarded purely on merit...

Environmentalism has been hijacked by left wing ideology as a weapon against capitalism.

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There are few things that promote peace more than being a known opponent of Republicans AND Democrats.

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He's done more than any other individual to make the reality of climate change an accepted fact in the minds of the common man, a well deserved award.

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Really? Do you know one person who he convinced that global warming was real that didn't believe it before? The whole thing just seemed like preaching to the choir to me, which isn't actually useful.

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Environmentalism has been hijacked by left wing ideology as a weapon against capitalism.

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You do realize that "environmentalism" and "capitalism" are, in many ways, already opposed?

(I suppose this just makes me a left wing ideologist though...)

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So you guys are saying Al Gore has not done good?

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He took the initiative in creating the Internet! That alone is worth a Nobel!!!

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Anyone who continues to make such statements should immediately lose all credibility. Kinda like someone who recommends Drop Dead Fred as a good flick.

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Agreed. Since Al Gore made that exact statement, he has lost all credibility. Actually, he lost all credibility with me long before that.

March 9, 1999; CNN interview
“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” Al Gore.
TRUTH: The Internet is an outgrowth of a Pentagon program established in 1969.

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Environmentalism has been hijacked by left wing ideology as a weapon against capitalism.

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You do realize that "environmentalism" and "capitalism" are, in many ways, already opposed?

(I suppose this just makes me a left wing ideologist though...)

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Capitalism is the only way that the environment can be saved.

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So you guys are saying Al Gore has not done good?

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He took the initiative in creating the Internet! That alone is worth a Nobel!!!

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Anyone who continues to make such statements should immediately lose all credibility. Kinda like someone who recommends Drop Dead Fred as a good flick.

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Agreed. Since Al Gore made that exact statement, he has lost all credibility. Actually, he lost all credibility with me long before that.

March 9, 1999; CNN interview
“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” Al Gore.
TRUTH: The Internet is an outgrowth of a Pentagon program established in 1969.

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Are you serious, do we really need to do this [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Here I googled Al Gore and the ineternet for you. Instead a basking in the glow of dubiousnes, why not take three seconds? Linky