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cuQa 10-09-2007 12:39 PM

NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
Villain is 26/12/3

What does he hold? Flush or set?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter
Button ($206.30)
SB ($114.25)
BB ($241.80)
Hero ($345.05)
MP ($149)
CO ($206.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $23</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $21, Hero calls $16.

Flop: ($70) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($70) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $135</font>, BB folds, Hero ???

AaronOC 10-09-2007 12:40 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
shove obv, set is far more likely than a flush

nazahl 10-09-2007 12:43 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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shove obv, set is far more likely than a flush

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think you got that backwards

DonManuel 10-09-2007 12:45 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
Set does not make much sense here, but I still shove

cuQa 10-09-2007 12:47 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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Set does not make much sense here, but I still shove

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obviously I wanna question a shove with that thread so your answer really sucks =[

Jay Riall 10-09-2007 12:48 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
This is a fistpump shove.

cuQa 10-09-2007 12:50 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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This is a fistpump shove.

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what do you think is more likely here? Set or flush?

I mean even if he has a set he has a decent equity .. but if he has a flush I'm drawing dead

Acevader 10-09-2007 12:53 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
What about As? He might have AsQd or As9h, etc. He might even have KQ and wanted to peel a safe turn card before putting more chips in. On boards where I might be semi-bluffed a lot I'll sometimes do that if I'm not willing to play for stacks with after a flop bet. All in all I think you have to shove without a very specific read on villains play.

Jay Riall 10-09-2007 12:56 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
Who cares? You are way ahead of his range - he can def have AA/AK/AsQx/AxQs here aswell as sets. The only likely flush is AsQs. Seriously, even considering folding here is terrible imo.

cuQa 10-09-2007 12:57 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
hm ok, ty

Requin 10-09-2007 12:58 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
Mmm my initial post came out kinda harsh but this is a super easy shove.

hakeem 10-09-2007 01:00 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
I think giving someone credit for a flopped flush is pretty insane. AsKx, QQ, KK, AsAx, 99, whatever, are obviously far more likely.

His line doesn't make much sense (for a flopped set) unless it's one of those "im going to wait for a safe turn then strike" sort of lines. Would be curious to see what he had here, my bet would be QQ. Get it in ASAP.

2cards2come 10-09-2007 01:17 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
only had that beats you is AsQs. shove.

the machine 10-09-2007 01:22 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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only had that beats you is AsQs. shove.

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or any 2 spades....

Jay Riall 10-09-2007 01:24 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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only had that beats you is AsQs. shove.

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or any 2 spades....

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Look at the hand more closely...

the machine 10-09-2007 01:28 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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only had that beats you is AsQs. shove.

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or any 2 spades....

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Look at the hand more closely...

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still looks like any 2 spades beat him...

and that doesnt mean i dont get it AI here, im just saying AQss isnt the only hand possible here

chris269 10-09-2007 01:47 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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only had that beats you is AsQs. shove.

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or any 2 spades....

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still looks like any 2 spades beat him...

and that doesnt mean i dont get it AI here, im just saying AQss isnt the only hand possible here

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26/12 doesn't reraise with any 2 spades. AsQs is the only reasonable hand, that beats him. Against everything else you are ahead (AsAx, KK, QQ, AsKx, AsQx, AxQs etc)

Easy shove for me.

Montezuma21 10-09-2007 01:50 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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Who cares? You are way ahead of his range - he can def have AA/AK/AsQx/AxQs here aswell as sets. The only likely flush is AsQs. Seriously, even considering folding here is terrible imo.

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the machine 10-09-2007 01:50 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
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only had that beats you is AsQs. shove.

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or any 2 spades....

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Look at the hand more closely...

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still looks like any 2 spades beat him...

and that doesnt mean i dont get it AI here, im just saying AQss isnt the only hand possible here

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26/12 doesn't reraise with any 2 spades. AsQs is the only reasonable hand, that beats him. Against everything else you are ahead (AsAx, KK, QQ, AsKx, AsQx, AxQs etc)

Easy shove for me.

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QJ, J10, maybe hes using his reads on OP and 3bing a SC. Im not saying i dont get it AI here but im saying his flush range is higher then AQss obv he doesnt have 103ss or random [censored] but it is possible he holds other spades then AQss.

and i stil lget it in

HoldEmNewby 10-09-2007 02:31 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
turn is a trivial all-in, with 100bb Stacks, being oop i like a fold preflop

SnglMaltScotch 10-09-2007 02:58 PM

Re: NL200 - str8 in reraised pot -> suited flop
 
This is a standard push for me. You will see all kinds of sets, 2 pair, pair and As. The only hand that I could guess he has that you don't beat is AQs and even that has to bet into 2 players.

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