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How possible is this in todays games? I was having a convo with a known mid stakes HU grinder (he is a 2p2er and some of you know him) and he feels he can do this for sure. He also said he would prop bet large amounts if there was any easy risk free way to do it.

He said he played 100k hands two weeks in a half and that he could easily make 2k a day at 2/4 hu everyday that he plays.

What would the line look like on this?

This may be more interesting if I could post the convo/his name but he asked me not to just yet.
Cliffnotes: Guy wants to prop bet that he can sustain like 400 an hour(he wants me to remind that he doesnt claim any hourly, simply that he could make this much one way or another and he could easily average 2k a day) 2/4 NL hu for a large sample. Wants to do big prop bets if possible.

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If you have a big winrate and play a bunch of tables yeah, it's possible. If you 12 table and get ~1000hands/hour you need to make like 5ptBB/100 for a buyin/1k hands or $400/hr. It's pretty unlikely but theoretically possible for a great player.

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If you have a big winrate and play a bunch of tables yeah, it's possible. If you 12 table and get ~1000hands/hour you need to make like 5ptBB/100 for a buyin/1k hands or $400/hr. It's pretty unlikely but theoretically possible for a great player.

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well he was talking about heads up

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i would like to see some of his stats that provide him a reason to make this claim. this seems pretty unrealistic.

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i want to see someone 12-tabling HU...
probably possibly to make that much in a year though but only if you are a very strong player and play like 16 hours/day. then again if you are such a strong player why wouldnt you just player higher and make the same money in less hours?

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there is no way he would make 700k in a year at 2/4. i would take this prop bet for any amount instantly if i were you.

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he could easily make 2k a day at 2/4 hu everyday that he plays

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sounds like a lock

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this player should be playing higher

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i dont think tis can be done

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There is no [censored] way, even hu.

Even staying on pace for 6 months would be a monumental task.

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there is no way he would make 700k in a year at 2/4. i would take this prop bet for any amount instantly if i were you.

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well he obv wouldnt play for the whole year, thats bad for alot of reasons. How long do you think one could sustain 2k a day playing 2/4 nl hu

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1 day

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This is possible, but never going to happen

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its even possible to make 700k on 10NL

everything is possible

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dont get me wrong, i think its possible - just stupid. if someone would offer me 5mio id do it.

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i could easily lose 700k in a year playing 2/4, so i don't see why one player couldn't win that much.

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the odds are slightly different then you are all thinking about it because he stop playing for the year the moment he's +700k, and doesn't have to maintain it... shouldn't affect numbers too much but its there

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if he is going to play 50+ hours a week, 3+ tabling, and is a good disciplined player, then I think it is definitely possible.

likelyhood of depression, sadness, obesity, etc. is very likely, but I guess it's worth it to some people.

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I'm sure its actually theoretically possible. I think people who start off hot way overestimate how much of a grind it actually is, and what happens when you run bad.

Lolo-Ehustler posted being on pace for 3 mill at 5/10 back on Party days. Pretty sure he made less than 300k after those brag posts. Maybe even way less than that, think he was losing over a decent stretch after he switched screen names.

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i mean, it is possible, but no player who is THAT good heads up would play 2/4. if you could beat 2/4 for that much, you'd be playing 5/10 at the very least

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he needs to average about 4k hands a day. doable but not very probable.

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I'll just give this person $100 if he does this

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I'm sure its actually theoretically possible. I think people who start off hot way overestimate how much of a grind it actually is, and what happens when you run bad.

Lolo-Ehustler posted being on pace for 3 mill at 5/10 back on Party days. Pretty sure he made less than 300k after those brag posts. Maybe even way less than that, think he was losing over a decent stretch after he switched screen names.

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?? that guy played 10-20

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Didn't DonButtons make a mil at 2/4 on party?

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i'd guess most ppl in this thread don't know what good winrates for HU are

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i'd guess most ppl in this thread don't know what good winrates for HU are

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so what are you trying to say? And what do you think good winrates hu are?

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Didn't DonButtons make a mil at 2/4 on party?

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i'm pretty sure it was 100k in a week

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i'd guess most ppl in this thread don't know what good winrates for HU are

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so what are you trying to say? And what do you think good winrates hu are?

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i'm saying there's no need for him to be 12-tabling because HU winrates are so much higher than 6max

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i'd guess most ppl in this thread don't know what good winrates for HU are

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so what are you trying to say? And what do you think good winrates hu are?

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i'm saying there's no need for him to be 12-tabling because HU winrates are so much higher than 6max

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it is still going to take alot to make even 2k a day at 2/4 hu.. 10ptbb/100 hu is killer. I think 6 max players think a huge winrate HU is easy or something

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If he 4 tables, averaging around 200 hands per table per hour, then he has to win at 6ptbb and play 5.2 hours in a day to win $2k.

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Didn't DonButtons make a mil at 2/4 on party?

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i'm pretty sure it was 100k in a week

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no fkn way

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If he 4 tables, averaging around 200 hands per table per hour, then he has to win at 6ptbb and play 5.2 hours in a day to win $2k.

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No for all of those. He won't always be 4 tabling at 200 hands an hour and I don't know who he is yet but I just don't see the rest of it happening.

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if he is going to play 50+ hours a week, 3+ tabling, and is a good disciplined player, then I think it is definitely possible.

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(50hr/wk) x (52wk/yr) = 2600hr/yr

($700000/yr) / (2600hr/yr) = $269.23/hr

$269.23/hr divided equally amongst 3 tables is $89.74/hr per table or 22.4BB/hr @ every table.

the 2/4 HU tables run around 200 hands/hr @ FT most of the time. so whoever does this should b beatin the game for 11.2BB every 100 hands.

i'ma say this is not impossible @ all but improbable enough for me to put half of my poker bankroll (@ even money) against someone sustainin it for over 200k hands.

now if the bet involves 6 tables then it can definitely be done. 6-tablin @ 2/4 for 5.6BB per 100 hands is very doable by a good player. now that i think of it, i believe i know a few people capable of achievin this. i'm not so sure i would bet against it.

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i could easily lose 700k in a year playing 2/4, so i don't see why one player couldn't win that much.

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Unassailable logic. ^_-

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If he 4 tables, averaging around 200 hands per table per hour, then he has to win at 6ptbb and play 5.2 hours in a day to win $2k.

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No for all of those. He won't always be 4 tabling at 200 hands an hour and I don't know who he is yet but I just don't see the rest of it happening.

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it's definitely highly unlikely, but i don't want to underestimate people here. i could never do it, but it just reminds me of that southpark quote: "how do you kill that which has no life?"

It's going to require putting in more than 100k hands in a month.

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I'd bet 10k that he will never do this

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I'd bet 100k that he will never do this

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id bet against it. a year is a long [censored] time to hold off from going insane

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I'd bet 1000006k that he will never do this

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guys, its not 2005 and people aren't handing you money on Party. I pretty much don't see anyone winning 1750 buyins in a year at 2/4. As others said, if he could then he should be playing 10/20 at the minimum and saving himself some time.