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crashwhips 10-08-2007 11:17 PM

Ribbo\'s video
 
Just watched Ribbo's shorthanded video here: http://ribmeister.livejournal.com/219654.html

Good video overall, I'd recommend watching it if you haven't seen it yet. A few comments/questions:

-You say in the vid something to the effect "my style is basically making a standard raise preflop and only bet the flop if I hit something" Is there a reason you generally don't c-bet when you whiff? I find c-betting to be very +EV and will cbet virtually any flop if I was preflop raiser and there are 3 or less players in the pot.

-In raised pots, you seem to bet half pot with your marginal hands and draws and full pot with your monsters. This seems very exploitable if you don't mix it up.

-Your bet sizing seems to be generally on the small side, both on your bluffs, made hands, and draws. Except for certain circumstances, I generally just bet a little less than pot on the flop then mash the pot button on the turn and river. What do you think of these two different approaches? I like my approach as I like to charge the max and have maximum fold equity (though ironically sometimes people will fold less to PSBs than 2/3 PSBs, but it all evens out since in those cases you'll get paid off more on your strong hands)

-You seem to always raise less than pot preflop. Is there a good reason for this? I like to have as much money in the pot as possible preflop with my raisable hands.

-In one hand you raise with 88xx otb. Flop is K85 w/ 2 spades I believe. BB leads, you call. Turn is a blank. He leads again, you say "I really think he has kings" and pitch it. This seems really nitty to me unless you had a read that he'll only donk into the pfr with very strong hands and not draws and isn't likely to play a hand with 55 in it. Do you often make these kind of laydowns?

Do you still play more or less the same way you played in this vid? Not trying to knock your game or anything, as you obviously know how to play this game, making 16k or whatever last month at 1/2. Your style is very different from mine though, and I'm interested to hear your reasons for these differences as I most likely have a lot to learn.

SinkRox 10-09-2007 05:11 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Each video link for me goes to a dead page: http://www2.bigupload.com/oops.php

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Elrazor 10-09-2007 05:45 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Ribs would be another player i would like to see do a well. unfortunatly, i think there would be a fair bit of pie slinging.......

Ruosteinen 10-09-2007 08:12 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Is there any chance of someone re-uploading this please? I'd really like a glimpse of how 2+2's upper crust live.

crashwhips 10-09-2007 11:21 AM

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Each video link for me goes to a dead page: http://www2.bigupload.com/oops.php

???

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Hmmm, it worked for me yesterday.

CrushinFelt 10-09-2007 01:02 PM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
1) Points 2 and 3 in the OP contradict each other, DUCY?
2) Ribs loves to try and get people to bluff or come over the top of him by looking weak
3) I think the lack of c-betting is for either pot control HU on a crazy board or pertains more to multi-way pots (also he doesn't believe in fold equity)
4) 88 was a trip to nitville

thisnamedoesntfi 10-09-2007 05:28 PM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
I have the videos, and have been meaning to thank Ribbo for making them.

Ribbo thinks about the game very very differently to what I did, and to what I see in advice from other sources. I have found these videos improved my play considerably.

I'm not sure how helpful they would be to good players, but I don't see how they could hurt.

TimberBee 10-09-2007 05:35 PM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Can anyone upload them again?

devilbiss 10-09-2007 07:50 PM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
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Can anyone upload them again?

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if you tell me how to do it I will

TimberBee 10-09-2007 08:12 PM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
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Can anyone upload them again?

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if you tell me how to do it I will

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Well, you can go to megaupload.com and make an account and upload them there. Or you can send them to my gmail account so I can keep them for myself! muahahaha

crashwhips 10-09-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
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1) Points 2 and 3 in the OP contradict each other, DUCY?


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I should clarify then, his bet sizing seems on the small side except for when he hits top set in a raised pot, in which case he seems to always bet out pot, which seems terrible if he doesn't balance this out by betting full pot sometimes with air and draws (I assume he does do this but didn't see much of this balancing in the video).

Also, he was not c-betting at all unless he hit the flop relatively hard. Lots of checking on non-threatening flops, even HU.

devilbiss 10-10-2007 01:51 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Here is the fullring one: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YRN6AA1S

I think I have the 6max vid on my other computer I'll have to check. If I do I'll put it up tomorrow some time.

JJBuffone 10-11-2007 03:01 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Thanks for uploading the video. Watching now!

devilbiss 10-11-2007 04:57 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
kinda forgot about this since no one replied for awhile

if anyone still wants the other video reply here and i'll do it sometime tomorrow

kicks 10-11-2007 05:17 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
I would like the shorthanded video

devilbiss 10-11-2007 05:26 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
ok I'll get it up sometime Thursday afternoon/evening

CorvusMonedula 10-11-2007 06:34 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
I'd like it too. Thanks very much!

HeadCrab 10-11-2007 08:16 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Good vid, nice comments, but i think, u very agr playing at fullring.

kicks 10-11-2007 08:30 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Thank you very much!

devilbiss 10-11-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Bad news I just checked my other computer and I no longer have the 6max vid. Sorry guys.

Apocalypso 10-11-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
That's a real shame, but I appreciate the FR vid you uploaded. Anyone else have it?

Rob121 10-12-2007 03:11 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
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I would like the shorthanded video

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misterwigs 10-12-2007 04:25 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
I'm uploading it now. It'll take a couple of hours though.

automat 10-12-2007 06:42 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
i´ve uploaded the short-handed video.

have fun ...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TIXC6GT8

CorvusMonedula 10-12-2007 06:46 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Thanks very much - downloading now...

misterwigs 10-12-2007 07:03 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Ah, a bit late but here's another: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TWR0DNLW

roggles 10-12-2007 07:14 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
There's hand where Ribbo has KK25 and the flop is 25Q , Ribbo calls a weak bet on the flop. He then calls strong bets on turn and river which are T and 8. How can he know his hand might be good here ??

Rob121 10-12-2007 07:34 AM

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Thanks very much - downloading now...

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kicks 10-12-2007 07:45 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
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Thanks very much - downloading now...

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Ruosteinen 10-12-2007 09:59 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
The 6-max one is the one I was most interested in, thanks for uploading again. And thanks to Ribbo for making it.

HeadCrab 10-12-2007 10:26 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
Big thx guyes for upload [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

eule 10-12-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Ribbo\'s video
 
another question concerning the fullring one:
can u talk a bit more about ur preflop raise sizes?
so its pretty much 3bb + 1 bb for each limper after the first one? but there were some hands where u raised fullpot preflop, whys that? i guess u raise really good non AA hands full pot?


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