HU 50-100 Private Game...facing River Push
 

I got to the game late and only 1 remaining player. Decided to play HU. 15k effective stacks. Hand was played in the 1st 20 min of play.

Villain and I have an extended history dating back years. Villain would be best described as an extreme LAG, but very smart and experienced player knowing what he's doing. He applies constant pressure at all opportunities.

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I'm in BB with Q9 off. He raises to $300.....I 3-bet to $1300....he calls .

Flop is 2d, 3s, Qd... I check. Villain bets $1400. I call.

Turn is 5d. I check. Villain checks behind.

River is 10c. I bet $2000. Villain pushes.

Any feedback on this hand would be greatly appreciated. I have been thinking about this and all day.

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i think your definitely behind and this is a fold, i've seen this line with a made flush on the turn often(especially with Adxd or Kdxd). you can't beat much, if he had a naked flush draw he woulda bet the turn. i bet the flop out and probably three bet all in. if i would check, it would only be to check raise.

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hand was played fine until the river although i don't see fault in betting turn 2/3 pot

i'd prefer a better plan before you bet the river, if you felt you were likely ahead and wanted to get value i prefer c/c, allowing him to fire away with his apparently wide range. you also lose significantly less when behind, as your hand even HU is marginal

if you were trying to induce a bluff then it looks like you did it so go with your read but personally i don't like a call in the situation you described. it's not close either imo.

i suspect you should have bet the turn for the same reasons you decided to bet the river

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OP did you have a diamond in your hand?

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i really dont like the river bet. too small, especially against a tricky lag player. check call is the right play here.

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really dont like the river bet. too small, especially against a tricky lag player. check call is the right play here.




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really dont like the river bet. too small, especially against a tricky lag player. check call is the right play here.




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also BET THE FLOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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really dont like the river bet. too small, especially against a tricky lag player. check call is the right play here.




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also BET THE FLOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i think rr pf is pretty awful.

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really dont like the river bet. too small, especially against a tricky lag player. check call is the right play here.




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also BET THE FLOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i think rr pf is pretty awful.

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to summarize:

rr preflop sucks, once you RR pf, bet the flop or turn, and if you are going to make a tiny river bet you should already know what you are doing when he shoves.

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If he's a tricky lag I wouldn't recommend bloating the pot oop with a hand like Q9. You get yourself in too many difficult spots and are almost always outkicked if you flop top pair. If you wanted to check and call the flop I advise to continue playing your hand like a draw and to check and call the river. Since the turn went check check the only hands that could be shoving the river for value are Q10 and 10's. Possibly a hand like 46s or A4s. If you want to bet river as a block/value bet you should really be betting more prevent your opponent from bluff raising a weak bet.

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PLAYED IT TO PASSIVE
HERE ITS A FOLD, THE VILLAIN WILL TRY TO MAXIMIZE HIS EXOECTATION WITH AND GOOD HAND HERE VS YOUR RANGE,CUZ HE PROLLY GIVES U NO CREDIT. aND FOR THE FACT THATS HE'S LAG AS SAID, LOOKS LIKE A FOLD MAN
RELOAD AND SHIP IT!

Re: HU 50-100 Private Game...facing River Push
 

Pre-flop sucks and the river bet has the big problem that you are giving away you have a semi-strong hand that is vulnerable and will fold to a raise (because you check/called on flop and checked on turn).

If you have done a lot of check/call (flop), check/raise (turn) lines, then he can expect you to have a decent hand here, and I would fold. If you havent its a nasty decision, and theres certainly a rationale for calling.

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preflop is fine, just not against this type of player

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Don't reraise preflop. Don't bet the river.

As played sounds like it's a call vs this villain.

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what kind of hands would he bet the flop, check behind turn and bluff the river?


maybe he has a strong hand and wanted to trap you with the turn check (see, I only tried to bluff the flop, now I check)

anyway, would he try to buy the pot on the flop after you 3bet-check?

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Armen,

are you the same Armen from either CMiller's game in Peabody or The Barber's game in East Boston?

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Yes , not Armen the dealer though. Do I know you?

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BOOM

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please invite me to Boston homegame. Pleeesaaasseeee?

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i might call this river shove

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Yes , not Armen the dealer though. Do I know you?

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probably. Did you fold QQ preflop to me (ha!) when I had aces the other night?

jc,

You'll never be allowed at barber's game. It's too good. Pm me for Cmiller's game tho but it's only 5-5 but runs like 5/10.

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bet the flop. c/c river.

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really dont like the river bet. too small, especially against a tricky lag player. check call is the right play here.

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i think check call is awful, if he is a good smart player no way u are ever good check calling this river

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i think rr pf is pretty awful.

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i really don't get why people are saying this. preflop is fine, i think making ur reraising range pre very tight vs this kind of player is a huge mistake.

as for the river, u either have a read that he is bluffing or not. this is one of those spots that is really tough to give a good answer to because it relies so so heavily on ur perception of his willingness to bluff this particular spot or what he thinks u are capable of laying down. that being said tho, this river is a call for sure vs the kind of player u described

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so many armenians!

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lolz rr is awfullllllll

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lolz rr is awfullllllll

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someone ban this troll ASAP