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Acevader 10-05-2007 12:33 PM

LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
...I can't stop laughing at the call when the bluff goes bad. He may as well book a flight to Scotland and hand me money for the hell of it! Interestingly, up to this point the guy was laggy but I'd pegged him as a fairly astute lag that probably made the style work well for him. The call confirms that can't bet the case!

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $191.80
BB: $28.45
UTG: $183.50
MP: $101.50
Hero (CO): $165.50
BTN: $102.85

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50, SB folds

Flop: ($8.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BTN calls $6

Turn: ($20.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $125.50</font>, BTN calls $58.35 and is All-In

River: ($207.20) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $207.20 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Fives) and WON $204.20 (+$101.35 NET)
BTN showed 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Sixes and Fives) and LOST (-$102.85 NET)

Stake Monster 10-05-2007 12:34 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
aggressive calling is the key to poker success

Passaman 10-05-2007 12:48 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
[ QUOTE ]
aggressive calling is the key to poker success

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Only if you've studied game theory at Duke. Otherwise it's too complex and risky in the hands of an amateur.

Astyanax 10-05-2007 12:49 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
He had runners..oh wait

nh

Warteen 10-05-2007 12:54 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
He had a pair draw.

JACKTEN 10-05-2007 01:22 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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He had a double pair draw.

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JJBuffone 10-05-2007 01:24 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
Way to stack off with TPTK donk

ledders07 10-05-2007 01:25 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
overplaying AK, what a fish

joyofpoker 10-05-2007 01:25 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
A major leak in NLHE is not carrying a bluff through to it's logical conclusion.

Acevader 10-05-2007 01:35 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
You guys aren't serious here are you??? Surely getting AI with AK here is super standard. If he's played AA/KK slow or flopped quads (or sucked a house on the turn) then he's getting paid. I also think I have to take my chances with 5x. I can certainly see merit in just calling the turn raise but I figure he's probably making the raise (foolishly) with K10-KQ and would call AI with those hands for his remaining stack.

runout_mick 10-05-2007 01:36 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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You guys aren't serious here are you??? Surely getting AI with AK here is super standard. If he's played AA/KK slow or flopped quads (or sucked a house on the turn) then he's getting paid. I also think I have to take my chances with 5x. I can certainly see merit in just calling the turn raise but I figure he's probably making the raise (foolishly) with K10-KQ and would call AI with those hands for his remaining stack.

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Ok then.

En Passant 10-05-2007 01:56 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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You guys aren't serious here are you??? Surely getting AI with AK here is super standard. If he's played AA/KK slow or flopped quads (or sucked a house on the turn) then he's getting paid. I also think I have to take my chances with 5x. I can certainly see merit in just calling the turn raise but I figure he's probably making the raise (foolishly) with K10-KQ and would call AI with those hands for his remaining stack.

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Strategy ban.

Nez477 10-05-2007 02:09 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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You guys aren't serious here are you??? Surely getting AI with AK here is super standard. If he's played AA/KK slow or flopped quads (or sucked a house on the turn) then he's getting paid. I also think I have to take my chances with 5x. I can certainly see merit in just calling the turn raise but I figure he's probably making the raise (foolishly) with K10-KQ and would call AI with those hands for his remaining stack.

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Well, this thread HAD potential

Acevader 10-05-2007 02:31 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
I'm totally lost. Totally, totally lost. This is my first post in this part of the forum? Am I to assume the running joke is to say the opposite from what would be the right play, etc?

runout_mick 10-05-2007 02:33 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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I'm totally lost. Totally, totally lost. This is my first post in this part of the forum? Am I to assume the running joke is to say the opposite from what would be the right play, etc?

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Have you never carried figs over a mountain for a baby?

yli 10-05-2007 02:40 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
"lol"

RikkiDee 10-05-2007 02:40 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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I'm totally lost. Totally, totally lost. This is my first post in this part of the forum? Am I to assume the running joke is to say the opposite from what would be the right play, etc?

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genius level imo

leprous_hand 10-05-2007 02:45 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 


big lick vs. big slick


mmmmmmm might see if they have figs at the supermarket today.... I must try one

AbreuTime 10-05-2007 02:47 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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I'm totally lost. Totally, totally lost. This is my first post in this part of the forum? Am I to assume the running joke is to say the opposite from what would be the right play, etc?

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Acevader for mod imo

killsadie 10-05-2007 02:57 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
does AIM not work for anyone else?

poker_dummy101 10-05-2007 02:59 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Fives) and WON $204.20 (+$101.35 NET)
BTN showed 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Sixes and Fives) and LOST (-$102.85 NET)

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Yea right I played that perfectly

ryang 10-05-2007 03:02 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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You guys aren't serious here are you??? Surely getting AI with AK here is super standard. If he's played AA/KK slow or flopped quads (or sucked a house on the turn) then he's getting paid. I also think I have to take my chances with 5x. I can certainly see merit in just calling the turn raise but I figure he's probably making the raise (foolishly) with K10-KQ and would call AI with those hands for his remaining stack.

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HOW MUCH FOR COACHING?

illegit 10-05-2007 03:26 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
He was playing with those decks they used on the first day of the WSOP and thought he had suited 99.

Acevader 10-05-2007 03:27 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
$50 bucks an hour and I can guarantee to take you from -xbb/100 hands to within 0.5bb/100 of being a break even player [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Georgia Avenue 10-05-2007 03:29 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
dum dum dum dum dumDUM dumdumdum
DUM dum dum dum dum dunnunnt DUM-DUM

name that tune?

keikiwai 10-05-2007 03:30 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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A major leak in NLHE is not carrying a bluff through to it's logical conclusion.

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pretending you really do have the nuts?

Acevader 10-05-2007 04:13 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
[ QUOTE ]
dum dum dum dum dumDUM dumdumdum
DUM dum dum dum dum dunnunnt DUM-DUM

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It's the friend theme tune right? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

BrunoThePug 10-05-2007 05:21 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
Best hand juan??

pokenum -h ac kc - 6d 9d -- kd 5s 5c 3s
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 5s 3s 5c Kd
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9d 6d 44 100.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 1.000
Ac Kc 0 0.00 44 100.00 0 0.00 0.000

jay_jaywalk 10-05-2007 05:56 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
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A major leak in NLHE is not carrying a bluff through to it's logical conclusion.

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I think villain makes a typical value-call after a semi-bluff with his flopped pair, backdoor flush, quads and full-house draws. Unfortunately, so-called hero somehow managed to dodge a lot of bullets. An ordinary poker tragedy where the wisdom of math is punished by the impudence of a gambler. No regrets.

Note: joyofpoker, I'm looking forward to read more on your lessons. Please keep on posting, you have opened our eyes to the esoteric concepts of poker.

futuredoc85 10-06-2007 12:15 AM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
if you have a spade draw he has outs if hes not ahead LDO

CalledDownLight 10-06-2007 03:34 AM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
aggressive calling is the key to poker success

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Only if you've studied game theory at Duke. Otherwise it's too complex and risky in the hands of an amateur.

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why am i not successful then?

apefish 10-06-2007 05:04 AM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
[ QUOTE ]
dum dum dum dum dumDUM dumdumdum
DUM dum dum dum dum dunnunnt DUM-DUM

name that tune?

[/ QUOTE ]


Ima gonna have to go with You are a Pirate.
Or the Belizean national anthem.


TheJubilantMale 10-06-2007 05:17 AM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
I think his call represented 56s.

skillgambler 10-06-2007 05:20 AM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
he did hit one of his outs though. expert call imho.

RedJoker 10-06-2007 06:42 AM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
he was past the commitment threshold, had to call.

alavet 10-06-2007 03:43 PM

Re: LOL, just lol at this bluff; but it gets better....
 
[x] pot commited


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