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jfish 10-03-2007 09:35 PM

middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
we are playing on 4 tables and we have been aggro. so far hes been very aggressive and i have been inducing quite a few bluffs. a few hands ago, he opened btn, i 3b KQ in bb and i c/c a Qxx flop and checked relatively blank turn and rivers. so he knows that i dont necessarily have an underpair here. i figure the line i took is a standard "okay" line, but are there any better ones? b/c flop?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

nationz: $939.00
Hero: $2,547.00
LucLongley: $9,896.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">LucLongley raises to $70.00</font>, nationz folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $240.00</font>, LucLongley calls $170.00

Flop: ($490) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">LucLongley bets $340.00</font>, Hero calls $340.00

Turn: ($1170) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">LucLongley bets $700.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $1,967.00</font>

AK87 10-03-2007 09:42 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
I like

jfish 10-03-2007 10:35 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
nobody wants to lead turn, right?

jsnipes28 10-03-2007 10:38 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
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nobody wants to lead turn, right?

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ya i think leading turn looks wayyyyyy to strong

klownage 10-03-2007 10:39 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
looks good

dlpnyc21 10-03-2007 11:00 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
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we are playing on 4 tables and we have been aggro. so far hes been very aggressive and i have been inducing quite a few bluffs. a few hands ago, he opened btn, i 3b KQ in bb and i c/c a Qxx flop and checked relatively blank turn and rivers. so he knows that i dont necessarily have an underpair here. i figure the line i took is a standard "okay" linee, but are there any better ones? b/c flop?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

nationz: $939.00
Hero: $2,547.00
LucLongley: $9,896.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">LucLongley raises to $70.00</font>, nationz folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $240.00</font>, LucLongley calls $170.00

Flop: ($490) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">LucLongley bets $340.00</font>, Hero calls $340.00

Turn: ($1170) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">LucLongley bets $700.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $1,967.00</font>

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you realize you're dead a large percentage of the time when he bets this turn on this particular board right?--what do you want him to call you with?

Donkey-Milker 10-03-2007 11:21 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
i put him on K10. did you hold?

king_of_drafts 10-03-2007 11:41 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
yeah, I think this is the best way

fsuplayer 10-04-2007 12:01 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
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we are playing on 4 tables and we have been aggro. so far hes been very aggressive and i have been inducing quite a few bluffs. a few hands ago, he opened btn, i 3b KQ in bb and i c/c a Qxx flop and checked relatively blank turn and rivers. so he knows that i dont necessarily have an underpair here. i figure the line i took is a standard "okay" linee, but are there any better ones? b/c flop?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

nationz: $939.00
Hero: $2,547.00
LucLongley: $9,896.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">LucLongley raises to $70.00</font>, nationz folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $240.00</font>, LucLongley calls $170.00

Flop: ($490) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">LucLongley bets $340.00</font>, Hero calls $340.00

Turn: ($1170) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">LucLongley bets $700.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $1,967.00</font>

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you realize you're dead a large percentage of the time when he bets this turn on this particular board right?--what do you want him to call you with?

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el oh el.

EC10 10-04-2007 12:05 AM

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we are playing on 4 tables and we have been aggro. so far hes been very aggressive and i have been inducing quite a few bluffs. a few hands ago, he opened btn, i 3b KQ in bb and i c/c a Qxx flop and checked relatively blank turn and rivers. so he knows that i dont necessarily have an underpair here. i figure the line i took is a standard "okay" linee, but are there any better ones? b/c flop?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

nationz: $939.00
Hero: $2,547.00
LucLongley: $9,896.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">LucLongley raises to $70.00</font>, nationz folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $240.00</font>, LucLongley calls $170.00

Flop: ($490) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">LucLongley bets $340.00</font>, Hero calls $340.00

Turn: ($1170) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">LucLongley bets $700.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $1,967.00</font>

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you realize you're dead a large percentage of the time when he bets this turn on this particular board right?--what do you want him to call you with?

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el oh el.

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i mean, he isnt too far off. i DO cr/ai but i do expect to be beat a lot of the time

jfish 10-04-2007 12:26 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
ya ditto

Irish Mafia 10-04-2007 01:21 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
If this is just a 3-handed game, I don't know why anyone would expect to be behind a large % of the time here.

by the way, I like this line.

Ship Ship McGipp 10-04-2007 01:32 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
i really don't see any other line you coudl take here, assuming you check the flop

NLSoldier 10-04-2007 02:45 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
what was the plan if the turn bricks and he makes the same bet?

g-p 10-04-2007 02:58 AM

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are you not even thinking about the one previous hand you mentioned?

Ship Ship McGipp 10-04-2007 03:25 AM

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are you not even thinking about the one previous hand you mentioned?

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gabey comin through i didn't even read that

god i want to check fold the turn

sauce123 10-04-2007 03:33 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
v tough hand...

i dont like your line. as played I *think* I check/fold turn but its very very close for sure.

ugh editing- this is close enough that Id have to be seeing every hand you played together to make any kind of decision. for some reason my gut says fold here, im bad at poker tho.

g-p 10-04-2007 04:05 AM

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are you not even thinking about the one previous hand you mentioned?

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gabey comin through i didn't even read that

god i want to check fold the turn

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and maybe not c/c flop to make the turn so hard???

jfish 10-04-2007 04:17 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
so do what on flop?

MYNAMEIZGREG 10-04-2007 12:40 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
You can play the flop the same but no one should be excited to get this in on the turn. I think that there is nothing wrong with c/f the turn.

Orlando Salazar 10-04-2007 12:56 PM

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You can play the flop the same but no one should be excited to get this in on the turn. I think that there is nothing wrong with c/f the turn.

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LOL, I like it because of the flop check. If you're folding this to him 3 handed, why even play him?

KRANTZ 10-04-2007 02:02 PM

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You can play the flop the same but no one should be excited to get this in on the turn. I think that there is nothing wrong with c/f the turn.

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LOL, I like it because of the flop check. If you're folding this to him 3 handed, why even play him?

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go back to nvg

Requin 10-04-2007 02:13 PM

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are you not even thinking about the one previous hand you mentioned?

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gabey comin through i didn't even read that

god i want to check fold the turn

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and maybe not c/c flop to make the turn so hard???

[/ QUOTE ]I'd think the last hand is even more reason to check the flop here.

Orlando Salazar 10-04-2007 02:14 PM

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You can play the flop the same but no one should be excited to get this in on the turn. I think that there is nothing wrong with c/f the turn.

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LOL, I like it because of the flop check. If you're folding this to him 3 handed, why even play him?

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go back to nvg

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Tell me about a 1k gut punch special. I'm in NYC beyotch.

KRANTZ 10-04-2007 03:39 PM

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You can play the flop the same but no one should be excited to get this in on the turn. I think that there is nothing wrong with c/f the turn.

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LOL, I like it because of the flop check. If you're folding this to him 3 handed, why even play him?

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go back to nvg

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Tell me about a 1k gut punch special. I'm in NYC beyotch.

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you pay me $1k, i let you punch me in the stomach as hard as you can

Kilay 10-04-2007 03:46 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
I always thought high stakes matches were a lot more profitable to make good money

Orlando Salazar 10-04-2007 03:55 PM

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You can play the flop the same but no one should be excited to get this in on the turn. I think that there is nothing wrong with c/f the turn.

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LOL, I like it because of the flop check. If you're folding this to him 3 handed, why even play him?

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go back to nvg

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Tell me about a 1k gut punch special. I'm in NYC beyotch.

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you pay me $1k, i let you punch me in the stomach as hard as you can

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if you die, do I get all the money in your poker account. How much to punch in the face?

lol

riverboatking 10-04-2007 10:15 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
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you realize you're dead a large percentage of the time when he bets this turn on this particular board right?--what do you want him to call you with?

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he may be behind...but i would say he's dead in this spot a VERY SMALL % of the time.

ike 10-04-2007 10:31 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
I think this is well played.

MYNAMEIZGREG 10-04-2007 11:55 PM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
WTF How did we miss Salazar when in NYC

Orlando Salazar 10-05-2007 07:44 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
I live in NYC. But I don't play higher than 1k NL live, so I haven't taken gaucho up on his offer to play.

MrP 10-05-2007 08:01 AM

Re: middle 2 in 3b pot vs stinger
 
its fine
3 handed no reason to bet out turn, and check shove is standard here vs aggro players like stinger


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